A lot of Vanguard readers would be happy if it was the Endeavour.
Spoilers The Starfleet Museum
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My guesses - Yorktown (Because that was the original name in the original 1960's pitch by Roddenberry), Intrepid (Because why not), or the Constitution itself to name check the class.
https://www.starfleet-museum.org/
See every single one in there!
It certainly looks.. original connie ish..
there were 12 in the fleet, surely not ALL of them meet with a dastardly end.. and not refit..
See every single one in there!
It certainly looks.. original connie ish..
there were 12 in the fleet, surely not ALL of them meet with a dastardly end.. and not refit..
The only thing I remember reading (non-canon of course) is in FASA's games, the Enterprise was the only one to return from the initial run of Connies, with others built before the refit. However, that's not on screen, so I'm thinking we'll at least see one of those original 12 (maybe Constitution herself) alongside the 1701-A as the earliest surviving Connie class Enterprise.https://www.starfleet-museum.org/
See every single one in there!
It certainly looks.. original connie ish..
there were 12 in the fleet, surely not ALL of them meet with a dastardly end.. and not refit..
does the space dock seem.. small?
I doubt an excelsior class could get out the doors.. seems small.
Geordi has slowly refit the NX to todays standards, but still looking like a 22nd century ship.. she can go toe to toe with an inquiry class now..
I doubt an excelsior class could get out the doors.. seems small.
Geordi has slowly refit the NX to todays standards, but still looking like a 22nd century ship.. she can go toe to toe with an inquiry class now..
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I almost don't want to say it, but the scales seem different. Those Connie's look rather large when compared to the Constellation, Intrepid and Akira. Could we be getting the larger scale from SNW, while retaining a retro look?
Agreed. I see absolutely no problem with the Enterprise being 442m. It solves every single size issue with the ship and still looks fine on a size chart when you compare it to other ships.
*What I would love for them to do is fix the scaling issues with the Excelsior. She's always been listed as WAY too small.
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In "Relics," Picard said that there was a Constitution class in the fleet museum; and the implication was that it was a TOS-configuration ship, as he was recognizing it by its bridge.
I’m also fine with the TOS/TMP Connies being larger, along with the other TMP-era ships such as the Excelsior, Reliant and Grissom. I think back in the day of TNG they purposely made those ship scales smaller to emphasize how large the Galaxy class was, and it just stuck for the next 30-odd years.
The only thing that annoys me, Starfleet ship scale-wise, is how much longer the Crossfield class is in relation to the Galaxy class, because of those ridiculous and unnecessarily-long nacelles they gave it, which wasn’t part of the original design.
Yeah, they were added so late in production, some of the early Season 1 episodes still have the short nacelles on the bridge consoles.
I believe the concept art with the long nacelles was dated December 2016. 1 month before filming and 9 months before airing. Though that doesn't explain why the official key art a couple months before airing still used the short nacelles.
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Good catch! I'd forgotten he said that. I guess they edited out the part where he said "Oh, there's also the NCC-1701-Bloody A as well."
That was Troi
The Crossfield class is a poor design. Best left at a museum.
Actually, the design itself would have been just fine for a ship built post-TUC/pre-TNG. The original design was based on Ralph McQuarrie’s Planet of the Titans Enterprise, which was a post-TOS design. The study models for that ship actually showed up both in STIII and TNG’s “Unification.”
With the exception of the oddly long Nacelles, I kinda dig it. It has very basic shapes and hull lines that I think make it a pretty good contemporary to the Constitution. I especially like sphere in the middle of the disk.
Everyone of course as their aesthetic preferences. I recall looking at the concept art for the design. I tried really hard to like it because, as you say, it could work as a contemporary of the Constitution. But the shapes just...suck.
Again, it belongs in a museum.
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