Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread
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It's such a loaded term.
I just need you to know there is a very specific brand of cringe-induced grin that only ever seems to manifest toward you and considering we are basically 'just' internet acquaintances that's honestly quite the achievement on your part.
They don't call me a sticky situation out of thin air.
After DS9 ended, I really wanted a ST series that would follow up on all the changes introduced over the course of the series. New alliances. New aliens (the Breen). Follow out from the major war. Etc. We never really got that despite a ton of universe building. Maybe a tiny bit in Insurrection and Picard. That always felt like a waste to me.ENT also wasn't what I wanted at the time. So basically, I wanted someone else in charge, I wanted to see what happened after the Dominion War, and while I was okay with them switching centuries, I wanted them to go in the other direction! Jump ahead! It's funny. Ultimately I got everything I wanted back then... I just had to wait 20 years for it!
On my, she used to be ubiquitous. Hadn't thought of her in years now.
I'd disagree. ST ratings had been on a long, constant decline. Each subsequent series got lower ratings than the previous series. And within a series, each subsequent season tended to get lower ratings than the previous season.
ENT just happened to be at the end of that long decline. Franchise fatigue. I don't think there was anything anyone could've done at that point to turn it around. ST needed a rest.
Similar story here. I loved Farscape, which was showing new innovative alien designs (Pilot, Rygel, Scarrans, other unique alien species encountered like the Dr that operated on John's brain, just to name a few) while Enterprise was still doing the same nose and forehead ridges that we had been seeing continuously for almost 20 years at that point. Also got into some of the new prestige shows like 24, The Shield, Lost, BSG that were trying new things, while Enterprise was reusing designs, music, and plots from the previous Trek shows so that show just couldn't compare to me.
Fasrscape and Stargate both had better alien designs and cultural build up for the most part. Stargate was also doing planet of the week that engaged better so Voyager and Enterprise both faded from my viewing habits, while other shows grabbed my attention. Farscape definitely had that edge.
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I agree, major franchise fatigue. They needed a new generation to have a resurgence. And the years after enterprise saw a lot of development in the way network tv shows were written and run. New trek has been faring better because of online streaming platforms. Now the writing doesn't have to be so formulaic and dragged slowly across 26 episodes.
Or a country song.
While I did generally like ENT, I sometimes wonder what might have been if that idea had been held back until the modern Trek era. A shorter, more focused, serialized show dealing more specifically with humanity's first steps into interstellar society, the Romulan War, and the founding of the Federation, might have done really well in the streaming age and possibly lasted long enough to complete its story.
No. The modern streaming world has cut back a LOT on character development in favor of a few characters. Discovery is basically the Burnham and Saru show and maybe Stamets and Tilly. With it being canceled next year, we'll never really know Nilsson, Bryce, Detmer, etc. Enterprise was the last of the many episode seasons that allowed us to get to know the characters.
Keep in mind we now know a lot about the 22nd century thanks to Enterprise in 4 seasons because of the longer episode counts back then. I doubt we'll know as much about the 32nd century in Trek even after the third season Discovery spends there ends in the near future.
I just saw the new preview for Picard Episode 5 on Youtube There's Lots of stuff with the Changelings and all I can say it looks like we're getting another action packed show this week. Very exciting scenes at the space station very much reminds me of the ds9 show Empok no with a creepy and spooky space station.
Picard: Hey Captain Sisko, we could use your help here! The Dominion is back. Come back and reappear and fulfill the prophecy to bring balance to the galaxy, or whatever.
Shaw:
Riker:
Picard: Hey it was worth a try, I don't see any of you with better ideas.
Bring back Garak at the spooky Space station he'd fit in with the Dominion there and trying to get rid of them.Similar threads
