T’Pol didn’t go to the academy either and she was given a field commission of commander. Seven has had far more years serving on a Starfleet vessel to be able to earn a commission.
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Does anyone think fans are being even more nitpicky than usual? Even for Star Trek fan standards it's ridiculous.
Every week there's hundreds of posts complaining about the year, the age of characters, the plausibility of technology. Every throwaway line is analysed to the Nth degree against almighty Canon.
This week it's "how could Jack Crusher POSSIBLY be in a bar aged 18” for Christ's sake.
Are people so unimaginative that they need everything explained to them with diagrams before they'll let it go? I've always been able to fill in the gaps for myself quite happily. Others just poke the holes but can't think around it for themselves.
I know I shouldn't be surprised, but even when the showrunners try to engage and explain their thinking, that just opens up a whole slew of new nitpicks. I don't know how Terry copes with being on Twitter!
Every week there's hundreds of posts complaining about the year, the age of characters, the plausibility of technology. Every throwaway line is analysed to the Nth degree against almighty Canon.
This week it's "how could Jack Crusher POSSIBLY be in a bar aged 18” for Christ's sake.
Are people so unimaginative that they need everything explained to them with diagrams before they'll let it go? I've always been able to fill in the gaps for myself quite happily. Others just poke the holes but can't think around it for themselves.
I know I shouldn't be surprised, but even when the showrunners try to engage and explain their thinking, that just opens up a whole slew of new nitpicks. I don't know how Terry copes with being on Twitter!
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It absolutely feels that way. No joy in viewing a show; just nitpicking and finding fault.
This is people's favorite way to express love of a franchise?
I understand that for many fans part of the joy is the minutia and building up the tapestry of the Star Trek universe - I love that too - but it just feels like for a certain section of fandom, 'Canon’ is now just a stick with which to beat the writers and designers, no matter now beautiful a story they construct and the attention they pay to the details.
Anyway, rant over. Hope everyone's enjoying Star Trek Picard!
Anyway, rant over. Hope everyone's enjoying Star Trek Picard!
People on reddit claim that subtitles spoiled (didn't see this myself despite also watching on subtitles)
Jack hearing the Borg queen apparently. Now they're saying that Jack's part Borg due to Locutus sperm or something. Not sure why that suddenly makes him of interest to changelings, I don't recall them having any interest in Borg before so not sure why they suddenly do now. Has anyone checked on how Miral Paris is doing, considering her mom was also a Borg in one episode, and if the changeling are after her too?
Also keep in mind that adult Miral is shown in Voyager Endgame perfectly fine, so whatever Borg problems she may or may not have inherited would've been cured in that alternate timeline.
Also keep in mind that adult Miral is shown in Voyager Endgame perfectly fine, so whatever Borg problems she may or may not have inherited would've been cured in that alternate timeline.
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the subtitles here in Canada just say 'Whispering voices'
Older Worf with his hair down.
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One small group. Borg still exist in some way, regardless of Janeway's efforts.
Older Worf with his hair down.
The Witcher: Sons of Mogh
Kelvin Kirk becomes Captain as a cadet. So does Tilly, though acting.
Or -and just hear me out- or, maybe you're viewing the nitpicking Trek fans of old through the very same rose-tinted antique time-travelling spectacles that today's nitpickers accuse the less nitpicky fans of viewing past Treks through.
Kelvin Kirk was listed as lieutenant, so his rank was lieutenant, and he was a cadet under instruction, similarly to Saavik
When us "Older" Trek fans nitpick, it almost always involves finding creative ways to make what we've been presented with "FIT" into canon, not decry that the Producers don't give a damn.Or -and just hear me out- or, maybe you're viewing the nitpicking Trek fans of old through the very same rose-tinted antique time-travelling spectacles that today's nitpickers accuse the less nitpicky fans of viewing past Treks through.
That is a Hell of a lot more fun, than just tossing ones hands up in the air and figuratively walking away shaking ones head in disgust.
The latter is not being a "Fan", it's being a bitch and has no intrinsic value.
I was kidding dude, lighten up.
My personal opinion is that this is simply the result of the internet and social media: More access at a rapid rate to both production material and showrunners, coupled with the almost instantaneous mass interaction of fans globally causes backlash over perceived negative elements of newer outings to "evolve" at a far greater rate than ever before. It was pretty much inevitable.
Not in my experience. In the past, and even with older Trek, efforts were made, head canon designed, to make things fit. As @DaveyNY notes it is to be creative to fit things together. It is to treat it as a big continuity, and to play inside the sandbox, despite inconsistencies.Or -and just hear me out- or, maybe you're viewing the nitpicking Trek fans of old through the very same rose-tinted antique time-travelling spectacles that today's nitpickers accuse the less nitpicky fans of viewing past Treks through.
It was, in a word, fun...
It's more than that. It's angry, and defensive, and very "black and white" thinking of what makes Star Trek Star Trek. There's no effort to make it fit; just a measure stick to beat the production team about the head and rub their noses in mistakes. It isn't accepting; it's "us vs. them."
I saw it. And laughed, I cried and it moved me.See above reply...
I stand by my overall observation though.
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