In the Alpha Quadrant, sure. There's bound to be more of him in Gamma.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x03 - "Seventeen Seconds"
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In the Alpha Quadrant, sure. There's bound to be more of him in Gamma.
I'm sure they still have the original template files back in the GQ.
Edit: ^What he said.
If that were the case I doubt he would have said anything at all. Don’t project your own feelings on someone else.
How?
Just on the age thing - is it not possible that we've all been conditioned by, predominantly, US TV shows for everyone to look perfect, ageless, etc etc until they are 50 so a lad who has lived a bit is unbelievable?
I know plenty of lads I played rugby with who looked twice his age at 18 and anyone who thinks Phil Mitchell ever looked younger than Speelers is a fucking liar
I can't really talk about it from my perspective. Other than gray hair, which I keep dyed, I don't look much different in my 40s than I did in my 20s. If my father is anything to go by, it'll hit me all at once when I'm 60.
I've known some pretty "old" looking 20-somethings, and some pretty "young" looking people who are really middle-aged. I think it varies from person to person.
I have no problem with how old Jack looks.
Sorry - I wasn't calling you out on it as such or looking for you to weigh in as expert, just using the point raised by TM and you kindly transcribing to pass comment on it
Everyone gets grumpier as they get older. I speak from experience.
Indeed. Now GET OFF MY DAMN LAWN!I have less tolerance for BS and nitwits!
So did it take Picard 17 seconds to get to sick bay? I haven't counted yet.
I had that approach to season 1.
And with season 3, most likely the largest target demographic is people that tried season 1 when it came out and got burned.
I especially liked the part where he said he hoped the season could appeal to all fans.
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Reading about the intent of the scenes between Rider and Picard which previously I thought overly antagonistic... But Riker is sore about lost children and even if it weren't for that he reasons as an officer that Picard is not in a position to make good mental judgements.
It's nice when something turns out something I thought was dumb was actually smart.
The downside is, is that by inference it turns out I was the one who was dumb.
Such is life.
It's nice when something turns out something I thought was dumb was actually smart.
The downside is, is that by inference it turns out I was the one who was dumb.
Such is life.
I can accept there being opposing views between Riker and Picard on what to do. I can even buy there being some anger in the mix. But the one thing that completely makes it out of character is Riker publicly telling Picard, "You just killed us all."
That was phenomenally over the top, not just in the fact he did say it but in front of the whole bridge crew... never mind the fact it was Riker who gave the order, and the responsibility ultimately falls on him. Riker was never one to shift responsibility or blame to someone else for his actions or orders.
Someone mentioned earlier in this thread that it's looking like our heroes are being deconstructed. They are right. (I think the wording was something like the current era of characters are not people we want to aspire to be, only people we wouldn't necessatily want to be around.)
I hope this is only very temporary because Beverly has already been damaged beyond repair.
That was phenomenally over the top, not just in the fact he did say it but in front of the whole bridge crew... never mind the fact it was Riker who gave the order, and the responsibility ultimately falls on him. Riker was never one to shift responsibility or blame to someone else for his actions or orders.
Someone mentioned earlier in this thread that it's looking like our heroes are being deconstructed. They are right. (I think the wording was something like the current era of characters are not people we want to aspire to be, only people we wouldn't necessatily want to be around.)
I hope this is only very temporary because Beverly has already been damaged beyond repair.
Almost like he's a changeling or something.
Is this the big draw of the TNG characters? They're supposed to be aspirational?
To a lot of people, yes. Remember when TNG came out - 1987 was pretty scary IIRC - plus you have fans who these are childhood heroes to.
I recall being more scared of my dad than 87 but I was still quite young and that changed over time.
Regardless, I guess I don't have the hero worship for fictional characters. I enjoy them to be sure, but I enjoy them because they show moving through struggles rather than any specific aspirational quality. I'm sure I had heroes but they were largely real life, or the infatuation was more short lived. Or my memory is failing, but I definitely recall liking the characters, but always creating my own to interact with them. Or, if I was aspiring to be like them it was always through my sense of values, i.e. balance vs. logic and emotion, or courage in the face of fear.
But, then, I was an odd child who like The Ten Commandments, TOS and Star Wars growing up.
ETA: I should add that I wanted to be like Robin as a youngster from the 60s Batman. Does that count?
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I see nothing wrong with having characters you want to aspire to be. A lot of characters in the franchise are ones people would aspire to be like.
Take Picard... in TNG, he was very much a good role model for ethical behavior.
Or Data... he pretty much embodies everything a hero could be. (For me, Data is most certainly a hero. Plus, he's the very reason I became a science fiction fan.)
Or Worf... quite probably the most honorable lead in the franchise.
Or La Forge... intelligent, and very calm under pressure.
Why wouldn't those characters be something that people would want to aspire to?