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Spoilers Season 3 wild speculation

Seven has neve been a Starfleet officer before now. Even when working on Voyager she was constantly disobeying orders, talking back, doing things that would get a normal officer reprimanded or even kicked out.

She needs a few more years under her belt before she can be a Captain.

this is probably the exact reason she was placed under the command of a by the book hardass like Shaw. Janeway gave her lots of leeway. Shaw doesn’t.


As for Kirk, I doubt he jumped from Lieutenant to Captain. I’m sure he was at the very least a Lt. Commander/Commander and first officer somewhere before being handed the keys to a ship like the Enterprise. Then again, we don’t know. His career pre-Enterprise is largely unexplored.

depending on how much they plan on using him, some of the blanks may get filled in on SNW.
 
As for Kirk, I doubt he jumped from Lieutenant to Captain. I’m sure he was at the very least a Lt. Commander/Commander and first officer somewhere before being handed the keys to a ship like the Enterprise. Then again, we don’t know. His career pre-Enterprise is largely unexplored.

depending on how much they plan on using him, some of the blanks may get filled in on SNW.

Good point ... :shifty:

That may be one reason he's on there in the first place.
 
the thing is, if they do a Seven/Titan show (and I still don’t think it’s likely they will) she doesn’t have to be the Captain. Lower Decks is excellent and the main characters are all ensigns in hallway bunk beds.

Trying that on Disco didn’t work because the Captains (Georgiou, Lorca, Pike and Saru) were better characters than Burnham.
 
the thing is, if they do a Seven/Titan show (and I still don’t think it’s likely they will) she doesn’t have to be the Captain. Lower Decks is excellent and the main characters are all ensigns in hallway bunk beds.

Trying that on Disco didn’t work because the Captains (Georgiou, Lorca, Pike and Saru) were better characters than Burnham.

They could try a Mr. Roberts approach (XO goes behind the back of the Captain from Hell):

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Roberts_(1955_film)

Then again, where would Raffi fit in?
 
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the thing is, if they do a Seven/Titan show (and I still don’t think it’s likely they will) she doesn’t have to be the Captain.
I sure hope not. I actually would not mind Shaw, or Rios, or another character of some kind being the captain. Discovery was tops when Burnham wasn't the captain. Now that she is the interest for me wanes a bit. Still better than Picard but still...captain does not mean "good."
 
I sure hope not. I actually would not mind Shaw, or Rios, or another character of some kind being the captain. Discovery was tops when Burnham wasn't the captain. Now that she is the interest for me wanes a bit. Still better than Picard but still...captain does not mean "good."

Rios is not coming back, unfortunately. :(
 
Rios is not coming back, unfortunately. :(
Future Guy: So, did he buy it Guinan?

Guinan: Admiral Picard bought the Rios death story hook, line, and sinker, President Archer.

Future Guy: We won't have to worry about interference from him then. It's time I thawed Captain Rios from cryogenic freeze. With the Augment blood samples that he's been collecting during World War 3, we now have the means of enhancing our Temporal War combatants to be protected and revived from death.

Guinan: President Archer, these blood samples haven't been field tested. If you put it in them, it might detrimentally mutate them.

Future Guy: I do not want the Federation's soldiers damaged. I will test it, on Charles Tucker.
 
Because she's interesting as a character, at least for some fans. Why cut that off?

well sure. And to be clear, I have no issues with Raffi like some do. I just don’t think if there were to be a Seven/Titan show, Raffi would have to be there.
 
well sure. And to be clear, I have no issues with Raffi like some do. I just don’t think if there were to be a Seven/Titan show, Raffi would have to be there.
I mean, maybe? Raffi could easily move to a Starfleet Intelligence/Section 31 show as well, which I would welcome.

I'm wondering now if the Worf/Raffi stuff is the Section 31 backdoor pilot.
I hope so. I would love that.
 
well sure. And to be clear, I have no issues with Raffi like some do. I just don’t think if there were to be a Seven/Titan show, Raffi would have to be there.
Well she's still Seven's girlfriend as far as we know. I don't count that line in Episode 1, she could have been lying as part of her cover. I'll wait until it's actually said by Seven or Raffi when she isn't undercover.
 
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