Indeed. It's an attempt to return to your family home that you moved away from 20 years ago then being made that things got changed. It's irrational to be polite.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"
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Well the Titan-A according to Doug Drexler and the Instagram Audio logs, was launched in 2402.
Yeah, I didn't want to link to it because, well, I'm on my phone and it's difficult and, well, they're controversial and not overly liked so.
But I saw them ad soon as YT opened on my TV and my thought was... "Yikes." Really didn't expect it since they dropped DSC, didn't cover SNW and pretty much hated S2 of Picard and implied it kind of burned them out in Trek.
Really, they needs to go back to covering the TNG seasons like they have already with S1.
OMG this episode was a banger for sure! What a hell of a start to season 3! I liked the first two seasons but this season (well the first episode at least) has that Berman-Trek feel. Like it honestly feels like one of the writers/producers from that era of Trek wrote this episode. That's a good thing, because that's how I always wanted Picard to feel. Strange New Worlds has that same kind of feel btw.
None of these officers were batshit crazy.
Yeah, but IMO the log that was posted for the 1701-D has an error:
That audio log states the 1701-D was launched in 2362 - yet in TNG S1 The Neutral Zone; Data sopecifically states that the current Earth year is 2264.
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And even more evidence for that being the launch year in the fact that in TNG S7 All Good Things, we see what happened when Picard first arrived and took command of the 1701-D (which was still in Dock being prepped) just a few hours before what we ostensibly saw in TNG S1 Encounter At Farpoint.
Now it's true TNG S1 The Neutral Zone is the final TNG S1 episode so you MIGHT be able to claim the 1701-D was launched in 2263; but given Data's onscreen statement of the year being 2264 (old calendar), 2262 is at worst 2 years too yearly and at best 1 year to early based on actual on TV screen canon.
Jameson definitely was. Also, Admiral Satie and her witch hunt.
And I wasn't aware that "batshit" meant taking sides in a conflict...oh wait...Kennerly did exactly that like Captain Tracey.
Insanity takes on many forms.
Have you met Starfleet? More that a few Captains with mental problems.
Having some level of trauma requiring treatment, or some level of untreated trauma, is not being "batshit crazy." Having some level of mental illness is in fact normal. Most people do.
You appear to be arguing that Jean-Luc's unresolved trauma over the death of his mother and the problems he has had with romantic commitments somehow disqualify him from serving in Starfleet. To which I say, that's the equivalent of arguing that he should be disqualified from service because he's got an artificial heart.
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...well E2 will explain it 
What makes you think that? I think she's with Mariposa, the same organization from S2.So Beverly's in Section 31 now?
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The credits is literally LCARS graphics scrolling
What's the problem with LCARS?
And it is advantageous that she is used to drugs and can keep her cover
I did, anticipating the recurring need for itSomeone even posted a comparison picture of the lighting of the movies. (I apologize I forget who made this)
I think Garth also said he might reuse it a few times
why would they?
That would be something, a holo SI handler
What's funny is back in the day they trashed Generations and First Contact for not being enough like the TV show, but then trashed Insurrection for being like the TV show and not enough like a movie. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think we've established that trauma is not well understood especially from last season's themes.
More's the pity as modern Trek has finally acknowledged that PTSD actually exists rather than waving it away with a magic dohickey of the week!
Ugly as old flash Geocities websites.
Which just proves that there is zero, zero way to satisfy that crowd. Their minds are made up and are firmly rooted in the past. They are traditionalists are the way through, conservatives (not political) to the Nth degree. And, in this franchise, it is rather unfortunate.
Nobody hates new installments of Star Trek quite as much as self-identified fans of Star Trek.
The Ent-D could have been launched in 2362 for testing and a shakedown cruise. This is distinct from leaving on the first mission. I don't see a problem reconciling the two dates.
Oh man! Admiral Satie! Now she was batshit crazy! "I'VE BROUGHT DOWN BIGGER MEN THAN YOU PICARD!" Hope she gets a mention. And Admiral Nacheyav, who wasn't batshit crazy, but who was the biggest pain in Picard's ass for years... Definitely Easter Eggs I would love to find.
The most commonly used launch date for the Ent-D I see online is 2363. The Neutral Zone being in 2364 could work if apply Lower Deck's stardate system, where 1000 stardates does not equal exactly one year.
But Doug Drexler also echoed the launch date of the Titan as I said, and he worked directly on the show. He posted it before the Audio logs even released.
You mean the asshole captain is also an irresponsible captain? I am truly shocked.
I really want season 3 to be both good and successful. Its greatest challenge will be getting people that bailed over the course of NuTrek to come back and give this a chance. RLM has almost 1.5 million subs on YouTube. Their past Star Trek videos can gain over a million views. So getting them to even watch an episode after saying they were done is a big big deal for viral marketing.
I was actually on the edge of my seat watching their review. They didn't... dislike... the episode, and will be open to reviewing more episodes. I can see why they're so skeptical... season 2 did start well and fell off a cliff. They just don't seem to appreciate all the behind the scenes changes that have happened. And I really wish they'd gotten screener access. But, their foot is in the door, and their interest has been sparked... so I'd call it a win.
Meanwhile the Critical Drinker (1.6 million subs) has already seen the first six episodes and has given it a positive review.
Paramount is apparently looking for the season to have a presence on social media, so having the two largest YouTube channels that have (critically) covered Star Trek in the past be happy with it is a major accomplishment.
Hey, needs of the many as some Vulcan once said! Who cares about a ship when you save billions? lolI actually liked Shaw wasn't fawning over Picard and Riker like most Starfleet personnel do. In fact, if you think about it, he has every right to be suspicious of two retired officers making an unscheduled stop then trying to change course. Sure, Picard was a decorated officer and statesman in the Enterprise-D days, but look at the things that happened when Picard and Riker teamed up since then (and some of Picard's solo outings)
1. Lost the Enterprise-D to a 20-year old Klingon Bird of Prey
2. Disobeyed orders and trashed the Enterprise-E, lost probably 3/4 of the crew to the Borg (though Picard did save Earth, so that'd probably score him some brownie points)
3. Disobeyed orders, trashed the Enterprise-E, led an armed rebellion against a Federation admiral
4. Trashed the Enterprise-E
5. Botched up the evacuation of Romulus and Remus, the Jellyfish is lost (most likely trashed)
6. Lost La Sirena
Shaw probably didn't want to oversee ANOTHER lengthy refit of the Titan-A because of whatever shenanigans Picard and Riker had in mind that'd more than likely fuck up his ship
Here's my thing though... Shaw's a fictional character completely controlled by the writing staff. Presumably they want us to hate him, because they're making it so obvious that they might as well show us that he spends his off-time in the holodeck dressed up as a Nazi, but I just don't get why. lol
Like if it's because Shaw's like Sisko and he hates Picard, then fine. At least with Brooks and how Sisko was written at that point, I totally get why he disrespects Picard the one time they meet each other. But the characterization of Shaw and his actual actions in this episode are just confusing to me.
He's either smart because he suspects them for having ulterior motives, or he's an idiot who somehow failed upwards into command of a C-tier ship that even Mariner wouldn't want to serve on... or is he both?
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I mean if the spoilers some have posted are true, Shaw is kinda of what Sisko might have become if hadn't worked through the trauma of Jennifer's death while communicating with the Prophets. Just a bitter, grumpy, pissy man who keeps to himself most of the time.
