Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

[David cgc]

The "Star Trek Logs" instagram is posting some tie-in videos with information on ships and characters. At this moment, there are videos for La Sarina, the various Titans of history, and the various Enterprises.

The La Sarina video doesn't tell us anything we don't already know, the Enterprise one goes out of its way not to tell us anything we don't already know (and also not tell us a few things we do; this is Captain Spock erasure!), except that the Enterprise-F was apparently commissioned only a couple of years after Picard was promoted off of the -E, and is slated to be decommissioned due to frame damage. The Titan video has the most lore, and I feel like it's vindicating my earlier read on "not invented here" syndrome, given it ignores the old Titans established by LDS, the Luna-class Titan as a science-focused ship from the novels and STO, and asserts the Luna-class ship was scrapped midway through a refit and instead recycled into parts for the Constitution-III-class Titan, doubtless explaining why someone will talk about this ship as if it's the one Riker took over at the end of Nemesis, so sometimes people talk about the Titan-A as if its the same ship as its immediate predecessor. Come to think of it, it's a little weird that the Enterprise video used Constitution-refit and the Titan video described the same(?) design as Constitution-II.

On the plus side, the movie-era Titan was Saavik's ship (four years from lieutenant to captain, that's got to be a record), and was Starfleet's flagship during the ten minutes between the Enterprise-A being decomissioned and the -B being launched.

 

[mhb210]

Someone at DeviantArt made an excellent MSD of the Inquiry class recently. I did a little bit of math based on the number of decks you can stack length-wise. It comes out to about 137. This gives us an idea as to how big the ship is. Assuming the following:

• 3 meter deck height - approx. 411 meters
• 3.5 meter deck height - approx. 479 meters
• 4 meter deck height - approx. 548 meters
• Assuming the runabouts are scaled properly and using them as a reference (length of 23.1 meters) - approx. 450 meters (or a deck height of approx 3.28 meters)

There's no way in hell this is a 630 meter ship. At most the ship is around 550 meters long, but I'm personally partial to the 479 meter figure. The ship seems to work well at that size in my opinion.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

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The boys at TrekYard look at the Faragut.

I gotta agree with Captain Foley, the nacelles would look better if they were curved outward instead of inward.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

The video for the Enterprise lineage gives the launch date of the USS Enterprise-D as 2362, a departure from accepted lore about this ship.

 

[cooleddie74]

If the launch date for the 1701-F is correct then she will be in existence just a year or a few years from the current settings of both LD and PRO. Maybe she'll show up or get mentioned at some point in both series.

 

[Markonian]

The video for the Enterprise lineage gives the launch date of the USS Enterprise-D as 2362, a departure from accepted lore about this ship.

And it shies away from giving the Enterprise-C a launch date. The novels used 2332, which gives the ship a reasonable service history.

Previously in STO, the Enterprise-E remained active until 2408. The Odyssey-class Enterprise-F launched in 2411. STO used the Star Trek: Countdown comic in its backstory, so the Enterprise-E played a pivotal role in the time around the Romulan supernova of 2387.

The startreklogs say the Enterprise-F launched in 2386, served for 15 years and is due to be decommissioned. That would be in 2401. Presuming Season 3 takes place in 2402, perhaps the F launched late in '86 and ends early in '01.

That means that by the time of STO's present (2409-2411), Starfleet's flagship should be the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-G!

Alternatively, STO could retcon that there was no Enterprise until the F was pulled out of mothballs.

 

[Tuskin38]

The startreklogs say the Enterprise-F launched in 2386, served for 15 years and is due to be decommissioned. That would be in 2401.

I think the 15 years was a mistake. They said it's being retired on Frontier Day, which we're going to see in Season 3 based on a poster. Plus we see it flying about in the trailers.

Pic Season 3 is also looking to possibly be set in 2405.

Alternatively, STO could retcon that there was no Enterprise until the F was pulled out of mothballs.

Or they'll just ignore it. They've said they'll ignore things from the new canon where it contradicts their story.

 

[Markonian]

Somebody on Twitter said that a solution could be to rename the Enterprise-F in the game to Enterprise-G, mirroring how the Enterprise-A was the same class as the Enterprise-nil.

2411-era Yorktown-class USS Enterprise-G mockup:

 

[NCC-73515]

So the A wasn't the flagship anymore? Funny that Titan's design was changed during construction, and the inside is from the old ship.

 

[Paul755]

They never said the 1701-A was ever the flagship. It’s one of those things we just assumed.

 

[Airmandan]

The fact that the season will be beginning with the retirement of the F is kind of unusual right? The fact that the reason for it getting retired is so detailed must mean its gonna get covered in some way.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I love how the Startreklogs on Instagram literally have most impulse engines evah as part of the Titan's hype

 

[David cgc]

They never said the 1701-A was ever the flagship. It’s one of those things we just assumed.

It seems likely in retrospect. The whole "flagship of the Federation" idea was a TNG invention (and isn't what "flagship" means in the context of actual ships, but that's a long-lost battle), but it slipped in to ST09 and, IIRC, either DSC or SWN referred to the original Enterprise that way, too, which I'm also not a fan of. Let people accomplish things, don't just start with their greatness being assumed and they're merely fulfilling their destiny.

 

[Tomalak]

To be fair, it’s ENT’s retcon that makes the Enterprise name a big deal before Kirk got anywhere near her, so I don’t particularly blame the current shows for that.

 

[dantini]

Someone at DeviantArt made an excellent MSD of the Inquiry class recently. I did a little bit of math based on the number of decks you can stack length-wise. It comes out to about 137. This gives us an idea as to how big the ship is.

But how did they arrive at that number of decks? And why are all the decks straight and level even though the rows of windows on the model are much more wavy?

 

[Spike730]

Because of Captains Saavik and Riker, the Titan’s legacy was continued with a brand new starship, one that would retain its registry, but now with the “A” designation, an honor only given to a select few starships.

NCC-80102-A. Constitution III Class, referred to in Starfleet slang as Neo-Constitution Class. This new Titan is primarily an exploratory vessel, honoring the retro design of the Constitution Class II. Launched in 2402 under the command of Captain Liam Shaw. Work began on a refit using the original Titan space frame, however, with the development of cutting-edge technology, the Titan’s design changed mid-construction and a new ship took form. As per tradition, Starfleet engineers affectionately designated it as a refit, having kept much of the original Titan’s internal components.

The Constitution III was designed to cater to a close support envelope at sub-light speeds, namely in and around densely populated solar systems, as witnessed by is overpowered impulse engines. To date, the new Titan has the largest sub-light power-to-geometry ratio in the fleet.

Did ChatGPT write this nonsensical blurb?

 

[Tomalak]

I took that reference to "the original Titan space frame" to mean the 23rd century ship, which is why this one looks retro. Or does it mean Riker's ship?

 

[Lakenheath 72]

I believe it refers to Riker's ship.

Most of the entries do not feel like something that authors at a professional organization would write.

I am smh at the contradiction in R Musiker's file. It began with saying that her personal details are classified, then towards the end it blurts out that she is an addict with family issues (nice touch there in not giving out the full name of her son, btw) and that she skipped out on Starfleet. Great job there, fellas.

And, why the hell would a ship's launch date be classified?

 

[Spike730]

I took that reference to "the original Titan space frame" to mean the 23rd century ship

Yes, but that doesn't make any more sense. In the first paragraph it's a "brand new ship", then it's a refit of the 23rd century ship, then the design changed and a new ship took form but still looks very much like the 23rd century ship.

It's exactly like with the new Stargazer where they couldn't make up their mind if it's a new ship or a refit of the original Stargazer.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Yes, but that doesn't make any more sense. In the first paragraph it's a "brand new ship", then it's a refit of the 23rd century ship, then the design changed and a new ship took form but still looks very much like the 23rd century ship.

It's exactly like with the new Stargazer where they couldn't make up their mind if it's a new ship or a refit of the original Stargazer.

This could all be avoided by not making everything the "Something - A"