What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Gingerbread Demon]

Talking about miniature models, I’ve always had a complaint with TNG and the newer Enterprise D model they often used from season 3 onwards. The original 6 foot model was sublime and looked like a vast and incredible city in space, but the newer one they used, which had more pronounced grooves and detailing just looked like a plastic kit model. It’s especially noticeable now we have the show rendered in HD. Is that a controversial statement, I don’t know?

I'm sure you would rankle a few people by saying that if this was a bigger forum

 

[Shat Happens]

Kirk dying and being resurrected in an undramatically short amount of time later, due to augment blood

The same happened with Chewie in the last Star Wars. I wonder if the directors are friends

 

[fireproof78]

Or yeah for sure I agree, seeing it on screen was a bit of a novelty considering how few times they actually did it, but that was due to effects budget and all that.

Not only effects budget but pacing as well. Imagine slowly down the story for the separation sequence.

 

[ananta]

Controversial TNG opinions —

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-unpopular-tng-opinions-according-to-reddit/

They lost me at “Wesley Crusher is Awesome” but I agree with a fair few, including Pulaski>Crusher and I also think the first season is more enjoyable than some of the later seasons.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I have no favourite season of TNG. There's episodes I like but no defining favourite season, it's one of the Trek series I just can't settle down to watch in a binge

 

[Oddish]

And there's always a stinker or two seeded in. S3 had "Transfigurations". S4 had "Half a Life". S5 had "New Ground". Et cetera.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

And there's always a stinker or two seeded in. S3 had "Transfigurations". S4 had "Half a Life". S5 had "New Ground". Et cetera.

When I was young I always called Transfigurations the space Jesus episode

 

[1001001]

When I was young I always called Transfigurations the space Jesus episode

Spesus, for short.

 

[cooleddie74]

That episode gave us all a warm glow.





Sort of.

 

[Farscape One]

Some might even call "Transfigurations" breathtaking...

 

[Macintosh]

Beyond is my favourite film.

Originally they made 2 filming models, a 6-foot and a 2-foot, then they made a 4-foot after season 2. Only the 6-foot separated, and it was difficult to work with.

After the four-foot was made, it proved far cheaper to use than switching between the 2 and 6 foot ones.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Galaxy_class_model has far more fascinating information, including the models they built for use in Cause and Effect and The Jem Hadar

I have a picture of all the Enterprise-D filming models together, including the special extra "cobra head" for the six-foot model that had the retractable docking clamps for filming saucer separations.

In addition to the various "breakway" models that were built whenever they needed to show the Enterprise exploding, they also built a special twelve-foot model of the saucer for the crash sequence in Generations:

This was done to both have a better sense of scale, and to avoid damaging the six-foot model's saucer.

Talking about miniature models, I’ve always had a complaint with TNG and the newer Enterprise D model they often used from season 3 onwards. The original 6 foot model was sublime and looked like a vast and incredible city in space, but the newer one they used, which had more pronounced grooves and detailing just looked like a plastic kit model. It’s especially noticeable now we have the show rendered in HD. Is that a controversial statement, I don’t know?

I 100% agree with this. Did Utopia Planitia not go in for fit and finish in the early 2360s or what? Some of those hull plates must have been several inches out of alignment! I first noticed this effect as a kid watching "Yesterday's Enterprise", even on the crappy little CRT TV I had at the time, and thought it was a clever modification to the filming model with decals or something to show that the "battleship" Enterprise-D in the wrong timeline had extra armour plate on its hull. But alas no...

 

[mr.peany]

I found Kes to be a far more compelling character than Seven. She had so much potential and I found the Seven “finding her humanity” reductive, drawn out and dull. I hated what they did to Kes in ‘Fury’ though. Although I think that’s a mostly universal shared opinion.

 

[Oddish]

I found Kes to be a far more compelling character than Seven. She had so much potential and I found the Seven “finding her humanity” reductive, drawn out and dull. I hated what they did to Kes in ‘Fury’ though. Although I think that’s a mostly universal shared opinion.

I think you and @Lynx would get along. Though I liked Kes as well.

 

[Paul755]

I was fine with the events of Fury. It was at least a better send off than the rush job they gave us for her in The Gift.

 

[cooleddie74]

"Fury" is a terrible episode whether or not one likes Kes. Jennifer Lien deserved better and that episode is a real turkey of the later seasons.

I was fine with how she was written out. At least she was happy when we'd last seen her. So...yeah.

 

[Macintosh]

"Fury" is a terrible episode whether or not one likes Kes. Jennifer Lien deserved better and that episode is a real turkey of the later seasons.

I was fine with how she was written out. At least she was happy when we'd last seen her. So...yeah.

I'd agree with this. I was never a massive Kes fan, but "Fury" undid everything worthwhile about her character development and cheapened her exit hugely.

 

[Oddish]

I'll take "The Gift" any day of the week. While I think there were better characters to get rid of, it was a suitable exit for Kes.

 

[fireproof78]

"Fury" is a terrible episode whether or not one likes Kes. Jennifer Lien deserved better and that episode is a real turkey of the later seasons.

I was fine with how she was written out. At least she was happy when we'd last seen her. So...yeah.

Fury is a terrible episode from a storytelling standpoint. Characters don't deserve anything except to be used effectively in a story. Fury didn't.

 

[F. King Daniel]

OMG was that all actual model work when they did seperation? I thought it was CG

Probably not in 1987. Pixels were the size of bricks back then.

They did explore going full-CG way back then. I've seen pictures of it and it ranges from acceptable to... definitely not.

 

[Gul Sengosts]

Controversial opinion(?): I like both Crusher and Pulaski, and I'm not a fan of how in that discussion preferring one is so frequently expressed through diminishing the other.