Superman

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  1. YLu

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    Thank you! This is what I'm saying. Have your own preferences, but don't try to speak for the general audience. The general audience has no idea what the hell a SnyderCut is, much less have an opinion on it.
     
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  2. TREK_GOD_1

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    Very timely, important point--non-comic fan. They are the majority of any film's audience, and even this collective--with a basic cultural awareness of Superman--did not see his killing Zod as some aberration to the core identity of the character, but he was making a realistic decision that was relatable to a real audience. They were not looking for Santa/Daddy, but a live action adaptation of a character that felt like he would exist in the real world, hence their "It's about time" response.

    Few were going to relate to Superman--with only seconds to spare--trying to create unworkable options to stop Zod who was more powerful than Superman, and was determined to incinerate the family.

    Exactly. Superman killing on occasion is no narrative or cultural failing, anything unnatural or some sort of deal-breaker, just as it was not for such heroes as Batman (Nolan/Snyder, etc.), MCU Captain America, TOS/TOS movie Kirk, Luke Skywalker, et al. Believable, justifiable actions in the service of the story support and build on great characters.
     
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  3. fireproof78

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    Exactly. It's a harsh truth to realize that everyone has a different viewpoint on what makes a character that character. And, the fast majority of the audience do not have this encyclopedic knowledge of various comic book characters. At best, a basic familiarity and a desire for a compelling story with interesting characters. That's it.
     
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  4. Dee1891

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    Magical? That was never my impression of Lois' romance with Lex. Just pleasant, but with less enthusiasm on her part.
     
  5. Guy Gardener

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    There was the episode where they're all held hostage at the Daily Planet, while criminals are looking for a gangsters Vault from the 1930s.

    Lex offered them a million dollars to let Lois Go free, and he's standing between her and the gun men's bullets.

    Besides "Magical" is easy when you own a dozen private jets.

    It was her relationship with Superman that was superficial bordering on imaginary.

    They had never had a conversation lasting longer than 8 words.

    She just liked his body, and got off on being saved from certain death.
     
  6. plynch

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    As would I.
     
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  7. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Straight men are more complicated.

    We want Wonder Woman to rescue us, and then tie us up.
     
  8. YLu

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    Yeah, but if he created a *workable* option, on the other hand...

    Grant Morrison wanted to do that story.
    https://grantmorrison.substack.com/...tations?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
     
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  9. Kai "the spy"

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    Oh, man.
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    The GoFundMe has a goal of $100,000, and it's about half way there.
     
  10. cooleddie74

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    Liked for the photo, not the condition. That sucks to hear. :(
     
  11. The Realist

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    Robert Garcia, a new Democratic Congressman from California, will take his oath of office on a copy of the US Constitution, a photograph of his late parents, his naturalization paperwork, and ... a copy of Superman #1:
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/pocharaponneammanee/robert-garcia-superman-comic-oath-sworn-in

    :techman:
     
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  12. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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  13. Mr. Adventure

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    Swearing in on a genuine Superman #1 is quite a flex.
     
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    Gorgeous cover!
     
  16. Gingerbread Demon

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    The cover art is fantastic.. I like it and I'm not a fan of comic books
     
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    Superman gets a step up here…very well done.
     
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    So what does Lex do? Does he get off the son and reset everything?
     
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  20. Gingerbread Demon

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    When was Lex made part of the character ensemble? Was he always there or made when Supes became more popular?