One DS9 concept was similar https://trekmovie.com/2021/08/06/exclusive-preview-star-trek-starships-deep-space-nine-and-beyond/ Others https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/City-ship https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_cities_and_islands_in_fiction https://www.pinterest.com/pin/414753446906154564/ https://www.pinterest.com/pin/812055376559588634/ A newer version of this had lagunan city ships: Anything look familiar?
Personally, I’m not particularly interested in in-universe reasons for the kitbashing, since I don’t believe those ships were cludged together from varying parts of other ships in the first place. The evidence points to them being actual classes. Not to mention that the YouTuber takes the ‘Oberth with a Connie nacelle’ out of context. It isn’t a kitbash, but a tug towing that nacelle for another ship.
Where's the Oberth variant from - STO? I can't recall seeing it before, although Jackill does have a couple of transport/tugs in the design family.
Yeah, the narration is pretty bizarre considering it includes a crop the original image (by Lee Stringer, in the 2006 edition of SOTL), where it's pretty apparent what's going on.
But then so is the ship, with 4 warp nacelles for a science turned tug vessel that’s towing a nacelle from where exactly—in-system?
Right, so it’s not bringing up the nacelle from the surface. And intra-system warping used to be a no-no, so theoretically where is that nacelle coming from? Also, previously, what do you mean “clear evidence”? Seems like a cobbled together Frankenstein fleet to me—if you even want to take them seriously as ships at all.
Spoiler 1. There are multiple Centaur type ships in PRO, so they are not in-universe kitbashes; they are legitimate classes. 2. The Yeager was seen flying around DS9 before the war even started, so it wasn't hastily cobbled together from other ships' parts during wartime, but was purposely designed that way. 3. If you already have 80% of the available spaceframe for an Excelsior class starship, why would you then arrange those parts any differently from how they were intended to go, if you're cludging together parts to form a working ship? It would make more sense if that arrangement was meant to be how that ship was originally designed (i.e. Curry, Raging Queen)
Jackill's Todega class tug also has 4 nacelles, but that makes sense in relation to the rest of its build. It has a large two-way tractor emitter for towing heavy cargo and other vessels.
I always thought that Greg Jein should have cast a new mold of the Grissom model like he did for the Vico, but make the secondary hull modular and swap it out for other things like cargo pods, starliners, medical carriers, etc. A lost opportunity.
Would have been cool, but I suspect if they had done that, it would have run afoul of some fan designs out there. Granted, they obviously own the property and can do what they want, but I always got the impression they wanted to steer clear of any designs that looked like they re-used someone else's work to be on the safe side and avoid any unnecessary litigation, even if they were guaranteed a win. I suspect that most fans (myself included) would have been delighted to see one of their ships on-screen, and happy with a simple credit acknowledgement at the end of the episode. The eternal prestige of that alone would have been worth far more than a one-time paycheck, IMO.
That's true. I do know that some Trek comic book artists stole internet designs and didn't give the original artists credit, which I think is either really low on their part, or they were just ignorant of what they were doing. Either way it didn't look good.
Or a bunch of leftovers from the war. 1) That's the most egregious of the designs that I can think of, not winning any arguments with me. 2) It was mostly in the background and you could squint and wonder what was going on with it that might not be the case up close. 3) It was just before the war, and the Federation knew they were in trouble; they were cobbling early. "Warp field dynamics"? Different mission profiles? The Curry and the Excelsior do different things. The Centaur too. I dunno, the Centaur is a weird one for me. Huge scaling issues. The windows suggest a much smaller vessel than the Excelsior saucer would have you think. The shuttlebay on top looks like it could barely fit a shuttlepod but, again, the same design as the way larger one at the end of an Excelsior star-drive. It's just silly to reuse these designs in real shipbuilding and only make sense as plastic model kit-bashes. As a fan, I'm not impressed, so I'm not precious with holding onto any of it. That might have been cool. I could go either way on it. I like the Grissom as a science vessel. And the idea that they can design bespoke ships to whatever the need. No incongruous designs slapped together. I mean, they had the Excelsior Class USS Hood doing cargo runs on TNG.