"Starfleet Academy" - The Show
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Absolutely stunned that we still have no clue what Archer did prior to NX-01, aside from that test flight.
They literally got a test pilot and put him in the big chair because
A. Their plan-A guy died in a test flight
B. His father built the engine so of course that qualifies him
from Mem Alpha
As early as the 2140s, United Earth had established a Space Academy where Starfleet personnel were trained. (ENT: "Storm Front, Part II"; PIC: "The Star Gazer" commemorative plaque) It was officially incorporated into the Federation in 2161 with the motto Ex Astris, Scientia, to serve as a training facility for Federation Starfleet officers. (Starfleet Academy emblem plaque; PIC: "The Star Gazer" commemorative plaque)
It may not be in the form of what we know of in the 23rd/24th century, as basically a "University" like the Naval Academy or West Point, where you go to get your 4 year degree, but also learn military stuff.
At this point you may be able to take a degree from another university, and enter star fleet, but still have to take there "Boot camp" or officers training to be let in. But also they need to be trained in there job. It took me 9 months of school, and more time of on the job training when i went in to the military.
So to be trained to be a helmsman lets say, today's schooling is 18 months to 2 years of flight training schools. and thats after Officer Candidate school, which is 18 weeks.. so your looking at a full 2 years before they can be let go on there own.
So school may be "abbreviated" version but even in the Enterprise Era, some type of "Academy" exists to train people. Sure you would have lateral transfers from like the Boomers, or other areas, but they'd be rare.
Maybe more like todays military, you have officers, who went to some type of university, or otherwise have some work experience that is comparable. And have Enlisted. Both would have to go to sometype of boot camp, and both would have to go to school to learn there respective jobs. This would take atleast a year even with the most basic of jobs, let alone everything dealing with a starship.
It took me 18 months of school and on the job training to learn to just tear down an engine, ( 2 month boot camp, 3 month initial school on basic aircraft material, 3 months of basic engine school, then most of a year before i found myself to be competent to be left mostly alone working)
imagine the schooling to teach about working on a warp core, or fusion drive.. Take more than a month of online courses!
So back to my point, I'd still love an academy series set in the Enterprise Era, and yes, that's just me wanting to see more of that era, and wanting to see the romulan war on screen. the books were.. not good..
As early as the 2140s, United Earth had established a Space Academy where Starfleet personnel were trained. (ENT: "Storm Front, Part II"; PIC: "The Star Gazer" commemorative plaque) It was officially incorporated into the Federation in 2161 with the motto Ex Astris, Scientia, to serve as a training facility for Federation Starfleet officers. (Starfleet Academy emblem plaque; PIC: "The Star Gazer" commemorative plaque)
It may not be in the form of what we know of in the 23rd/24th century, as basically a "University" like the Naval Academy or West Point, where you go to get your 4 year degree, but also learn military stuff.
At this point you may be able to take a degree from another university, and enter star fleet, but still have to take there "Boot camp" or officers training to be let in. But also they need to be trained in there job. It took me 9 months of school, and more time of on the job training when i went in to the military.
So to be trained to be a helmsman lets say, today's schooling is 18 months to 2 years of flight training schools. and thats after Officer Candidate school, which is 18 weeks.. so your looking at a full 2 years before they can be let go on there own.
So school may be "abbreviated" version but even in the Enterprise Era, some type of "Academy" exists to train people. Sure you would have lateral transfers from like the Boomers, or other areas, but they'd be rare.
Maybe more like todays military, you have officers, who went to some type of university, or otherwise have some work experience that is comparable. And have Enlisted. Both would have to go to sometype of boot camp, and both would have to go to school to learn there respective jobs. This would take atleast a year even with the most basic of jobs, let alone everything dealing with a starship.
It took me 18 months of school and on the job training to learn to just tear down an engine, ( 2 month boot camp, 3 month initial school on basic aircraft material, 3 months of basic engine school, then most of a year before i found myself to be competent to be left mostly alone working)
imagine the schooling to teach about working on a warp core, or fusion drive.. Take more than a month of online courses!
So back to my point, I'd still love an academy series set in the Enterprise Era, and yes, that's just me wanting to see more of that era, and wanting to see the romulan war on screen. the books were.. not good..
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Huh? No one died to get Archer command.
Captain Gardner is who Ambassador Soval wanted, but Forrest ignored him because the Vulcans weren't in charge of Crew Assignments.
The selection was narrowed down to Robinson and Archer, Forrest eventually decided on Archer.
The only person who died was Robinson, but that was at the end of Season 2.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/First_Flight_(episode)
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I saw Tilly on set during the BTS of Discovery season 5. I wonder if she's back or if this is another cadet episode?
God I hope not.. The last one was so cringe..
More cadets would be welcome, to be sure
No matter what They finally decide on, you know it's going to involve some combination of Characters we have previous seen.
Can't you just hear the lyrical moans of "It's A Small Universe" that will be wafting around here...
Assuming people continue to want to moan? Don't presume too much...
I imagine the UE Starfleet is like the early days of NASA, where astronauts were recruited from the military branches, such as the Navy, the Marines, and the Air Force. And, like later NASA, also took on scientist recruits, such as Hoshi. The major difference is that the UE Starfleet is portrayed as its own separate pseudo-military branch with Navy-like ranks.
Sounds logical to me.
I wouldn't mind Tilly heading a Starfleet show, she was one of the best things about DISC.
If they really decide to make Starfleet Academy show, they shouldn't focus only at the Cadets, but also with the Instructors. Balance the focus in between the Instructors and the Cadets. Just like "Stranger Things". Don't try to follow a failed Netflix sci-fi that has the same premise of space academy, where the instructors acts like a fool, while the Cadets can handle every trouble in the story like a pro; although they still cadets of the academy.
It will feel like a Mary Sue Fan fiction level of story rather than Star Trek level of story.
I'd said, the Instructors will be seasoned Starfleet officers. Who maybe commandering a Legendary Starship. They are legend, but get ordered by Starfleet command to teach the Cadets in the Academy. While the Cadets will simply Cadets. Like in Stranger Things. Young people with full of imagination. With of course, lack of expertise. But full of enthusiasm. Their adventure doesn't need to be critical / serious. Maybe will be resolve in an episode. But there is also a season long serious problem that involved the Instructors.
We should avoid a cliche story where the Cadets steal a Starship to solve serious problem. But we can encourage "Valiant" type of episode where the Cadets trapped inside a starship in a dangerous situation where their instructors are dead, or incapacitated. But normally it is the instructors who will moving around with their Starship, and not the cadets.
It will feel like a Mary Sue Fan fiction level of story rather than Star Trek level of story.
I'd said, the Instructors will be seasoned Starfleet officers. Who maybe commandering a Legendary Starship. They are legend, but get ordered by Starfleet command to teach the Cadets in the Academy. While the Cadets will simply Cadets. Like in Stranger Things. Young people with full of imagination. With of course, lack of expertise. But full of enthusiasm. Their adventure doesn't need to be critical / serious. Maybe will be resolve in an episode. But there is also a season long serious problem that involved the Instructors.
We should avoid a cliche story where the Cadets steal a Starship to solve serious problem. But we can encourage "Valiant" type of episode where the Cadets trapped inside a starship in a dangerous situation where their instructors are dead, or incapacitated. But normally it is the instructors who will moving around with their Starship, and not the cadets.
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Why would they?
Who know? It can happen if they choose wrong writers.
Seems like borrowing trouble to me. They are going to look at what works for them, not a random series.
Just because the last one was doesn't mean another would. Could have a different writer and director.
If they do an Academy series they should center it on a popular character like Miles O'Brian.
But honestly with the shifts in the economy, dark shifts, I think any stomach they had for experimental projects went out the window so that likely means Star Fleet Academy and Section 31 will end up on the chopping block in favour safer choices for Star Trek.
But honestly with the shifts in the economy, dark shifts, I think any stomach they had for experimental projects went out the window so that likely means Star Fleet Academy and Section 31 will end up on the chopping block in favour safer choices for Star Trek.
Yup. Trek is as safe as it can. Hard lessons were learned, and the message was clear.
I say this as someone who enjoys Discovery and parts of Picard, the absolutely huge difference between Audience reactions for Discovery & Picard on one side and Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, and Prodigy on the other can't not have a major effect, especially when Paramount is hurting for money.
Yup. What won out was comfort food viewing. Which is fine, but at least be honest about it. Don't tell me Trek is pushing any limits or groundbreaking or anything.
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