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The biggest waste was getting the actor and not having him play his Voyager character. The guy worked on a freaking timeship. He even knows Seven of Nine. The story potential basically writes itself. Instead they made him Fox Mulder for no reason.
Man, I missed this Star Wars/Star Trek Picard crossover in Andor? :whistle::whistle:

Seriously, is Andor so good we need to bitch about other shows in the thread?:shrug::sigh:
 
It should have been in a broken wall panel or something, not just sitting on a shelf, highly visible, above the shower.

I think that was the structure of the shower it was sitting in, not a shelf. It was out of view behind the same panel that hides the upper pipes. The only person who would have ever seen it is a plumber.
 
Man, I missed this Star Wars/Star Trek Picard crossover in Andor? :whistle::whistle:

Seriously, is Andor so good we need to bitch about other shows in the thread?:shrug::sigh:

They all exist in the same multiverse. Star Trek,Star Wars and of course The Orville and for some reason also, Charles in Charge.
 
If Andor had been made two years before the original Star Wars film. :)

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Wow...that was amazing. They totally hit that 70s vibe and edited in just the right scenes.

And that theme music is awesome. Theybneed to add that to the 2nd season soundtrack
 
I think that was the structure of the shower it was sitting in, not a shelf. It was out of view behind the same panel that hides the upper pipes. The only person who would have ever seen it is a plumber.

I realized I was wrong about this, as he left the box on the top shelf in episode 7. In Episode 11, it's placed on the middle shelf (where it's visible), but that wasn't the actual hiding spot. Still not ideal, but better than what I had assumed.
 
True. And especially Stargate!

That's pretty damn good. I'd hate to see a series that warrants a lesser rating.

Have to agree. A 7.5-8 is a damn fine show. For me, anything I rate above 6 is worth watching, when the ratings creep up to 7, you have a kick ass show now. Going above 8, now we're talking exceptional.
 
Andor creatively succeeded from being more focused and tightly written - in comparison I think The Book Of Boba Fett's opening season suffered from a lot of squabbling in the writer's room, creative tensions over making Boba Fett more likeable, plus different directors with clashing visions (instead of gritty crimelord drama we get goofy action comedy with slow speeder chases and magic spin attacks, etc).

Obi Wan Kenobi was better, but it still got hobbled by some relatively inexperienced production crew, odd editing/directing moments, and story padding (but it had a very emotional ending).
 
Andor creatively succeeded from being more focused and tightly written - in comparison I think The Book Of Boba Fett's opening season suffered from a lot of squabbling in the writer's room, creative tensions over making Boba Fett more likeable, plus different directors with clashing visions (instead of gritty crimelord drama we get goofy action comedy with slow speeder chases and magic spin attacks, etc).

Obi Wan Kenobi was better, but it still got hobbled by some relatively inexperienced production crew, odd editing/directing moments, and story padding (but it had a very emotional ending).

Actually, the series did feature crime lord drama, along with the "goofy action comedy". I have two major problems with "The Book of Boba Fett". I realize that the series wanted his connection to the Tuskens to pay off in the end. I had no problems with that. But the series featured too many flashbacks for my taste. Like the numerous flashbacks in the first two episodes of "Andor". And shoving in two episodes in which Din Djarin is the main character and in which the narratives barely had anything to do with Boba Fett, was the real mistake.

My only problem with "Obi-Wan Kenobi" was that the narrative never allowed Bail Organa to face or nearly the consequences of summoning Obi-Wan. After all, Reva did reveal to the Grand Inquisitor that she had kidnapped Leia in the first place to ensure Bail would summon Obi-Wan.

But I still believe "Obi-Wan Kenobi" had tighter writing than "Andor". As much as I like "Andor", I have several issues with the show's writing, and I have pointed them out in earlier posts.
 
I was really shocked they killed Maavra, I expected her to play a bigger role in inspiring Casian to join the Rebels.
Poor Be, the scenes with him after her death were just heartbreaking.
The deeper we get into this, the more convinced I am that Luthen will be end up getting killed before the series is over, I just can't see his story ending any other way. And with him being such a big player in the Rebellion, him dying would also explain why we never heard of or saw him before/after this.

Am I the only one who doesn't think Fiona Shaw is actually dead and that this is some plan to lure the Empire into a trap?

I think the reason we never saw Luthen after this is anonymity. He's George Smiley, he doesn't want anyone to know who he is or what he's done.

I never got the 'characters in Rogue One had to die because otherwise where were they in ANH/TESB and ROTJ?' I dunno, off on the other side of the galaxy doing something else presumably. It's a big galaxy and a big Rebellion.

If Andor had been made two years before the original Star Wars film. :)

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That's very good
 
I never got the 'characters in Rogue One had to die because otherwise where were they in ANH/TESB and ROTJ?' I dunno, off on the other side of the galaxy doing something else presumably. It's a big galaxy and a big Rebellion.
I mean, I can see the point, but at the time ANH was kind of a blinders on type of view. Yavin IV was the only Rebel base, and that had to remain a secret. So, while not intentional, it did felt very hampered by ANH being the first entry in to Star Wars because of the framing in that film. Obviously, with later installments the galaxy did become a much bigger place, the Rebellion a much bigger organization, etc. So, it takes a slightly different mindset with going into Rogue One, because it really upends the whole framing device of ANH.

However, it is one strike I put against Rogue One. It has these characters, and it assumes the audience knows they are going to die, and so throws a bunch of characters at us and then expects us to care when they die. At best, I maybe cared one or two died. At worst, I was actively annoyed by several of them and didn't mind when they died, which is not a great feeling for protagonists in a film.
 
IIRC the writers weren't sure LucasFilm would let them kill everyone off in Rogue One, and were surprised when they did.
Makes me wonder if they ever wrote an ending where they did survive.

According to those have got press copies of the finale, it's 50 minutes long not including the credits.
 
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