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Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy and the Novels

I'm calling it now, the Protostar and experiments with it are what is going to destroy the Romulan sun.

Maybe triggering both Hobus first and a similar countdown with their own star in a chain reaction.
 
I'm calling it now, the Protostar and experiments with it are what is going to destroy the Romulan sun.

The timing doesn't make sense, though. Prodigy is in 2384, just a year before the synth attack. The detection of the building supernova should've happened 2-3 years ago. The Neutral Zone should already be a non-issue, since Starfleet ships should already have been evacuating Romulan worlds for at least a couple of years.

Also, today's episode made the same stupid mistake Trek has been making since "The Deadly Years" -- saying that Starfleet ships are forbidden in the Neutral Zone, yet having Romulan ships hanging out inside it ready to pounce. The whole point of the Neutral Zone is that neither side is allowed to enter. It's a buffer zone between the two powers to prevent conflict by forbidding opposing forces from coming into range of each other. So having Starfleet and Romulan ships nose-to-nose on opposite sides of the Neutral Zone border makes no sense. Too many writers treat the Zone like it's part of Romulan territory, as if they don't recognize that the "Neutral" part actually means something rather than just being a random sound.



Maybe triggering both Hobus first and a similar countdown with their own star in a chain reaction.

There is no Hobus. It was an invention of the comics. It was a guess that turned out to be wrong.
 
The timing doesn't make sense, though. Prodigy is in 2384, just a year before the synth attack. The detection of the building supernova should've happened 2-3 years ago. The Neutral Zone should already be a non-issue, since Starfleet ships should already have been evacuating Romulan worlds for at least a couple of years.

Also, today's episode made the same stupid mistake Trek has been making since "The Deadly Years" -- saying that Starfleet ships are forbidden in the Neutral Zone, yet having Romulan ships hanging out inside it ready to pounce. The whole point of the Neutral Zone is that neither side is allowed to enter. It's a buffer zone between the two powers to prevent conflict by forbidding opposing forces from coming into range of each other. So having Starfleet and Romulan ships nose-to-nose on opposite sides of the Neutral Zone border makes no sense. Too many writers treat the Zone like it's part of Romulan territory, as if they don't recognize that the "Neutral" part actually means something rather than just being a random sound.

You raise a good point and I sadly, like LOWER DECKS, think this will ignore the Picard timeline. Indeed, they altered the Lower Decks timeline so they didn't have to deal with Picard and I think that's an incredible waste on their part.

Mind you, the Romulans still greeting the Federation with hostility while they're accepting aid from them in evacuating their homeworld is entirely on brand with both THE LAST BEST HOPE's depiction of the Romulan evacuation (where they're cutting off their nose to spite their face) and also the North Korea inspiration for the Romulans in TNG.

Mind you, if they'd been accurate to North Korea, the Romulans wouldn't be anywhere approaching a galactic power anymore.
 
You raise a good point and I sadly, like LOWER DECKS, think this will ignore the Picard timeline. Indeed, they altered the Lower Decks timeline so they didn't have to deal with Picard and I think that's an incredible waste on their part.
Bah? How is Lower Decks "ignoring Picard"? The recent season finale referenced that Picard is now an Admiral, which in according to the backstory for Picard the series is that he was promoted in 2381 to begin the Romulan evacuation efforts.

Just because the Cerritos isn't involved with the evacuation doesn't mean the show is ignoring Picard. Starfleet did have other affairs they still had to see to in the early 2380s.
 
Bah? How is Lower Decks "ignoring Picard"? The recent season finale referenced that Picard is now an Admiral, which in according to the backstory for Picard the series is that he was promoted in 2381 to begin the Romulan evacuation efforts.

Just because the Cerritos isn't involved with the evacuation doesn't mean the show is ignoring Picard. Starfleet did have other affairs they still had to see to in the early 2380s.

Because they pulled the timeline back from 1 season equal 1 year so they didn't arrive at the Mars attack.
 
That doesn't mean they're ignoring Picard. Ignoring would mean they're actively contradicting it. Which they aren't.
 
Do Jankom and Noum have different numbers of fingers (discounting Jankom's bionic hand), or do you just mean in general?

Yes, Jankom has three fingers (on both his bionic and organic hands) like TOS and Noum has five like ENT.

You can see the difference here:

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The timing doesn't make sense, though. Prodigy is in 2384, just a year before the synth attack. The detection of the building supernova should've happened 2-3 years ago. The Neutral Zone should already be a non-issue, since Starfleet ships should already have been evacuating Romulan worlds for at least a couple of years.

Do we know when the evacuation started? I'm guessing it was mentioned in Picard season 1, but I don't recall.
 
Do we know when the evacuation started? I'm guessing it was mentioned in Picard season 1, but I don't recall.

I'm going by the Picard press kit and the novel The Last Best Hope saying that Picard was promoted to lead the rescue fleet in 2381, which is supported by Lower Decks' season 3 finale confirming that he's an admiral in 2381. It's not explicit canon, but it just stands to reason that the Romulan Rescue operation was underway for more than one year before the synth attack.
 
I'm going by the Picard press kit and the novel The Last Best Hope saying that Picard was promoted to lead the rescue fleet in 2381, which is supported by Lower Decks' season 3 finale confirming that he's an admiral in 2381. It's not explicit canon, but it just stands to reason that the Romulan Rescue operation was underway for more than one year before the synth attack.

Yes, we know it wasn't a complete failure too because there is one planet full of refugees that the Federation resettled. It was just far less than the actual numbner they could have.
 
Yes, Jankom has three fingers (on both his bionic and organic hands) like TOS
And maybe Strange New Worlds
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1545845411231010816

Because they pulled the timeline back from 1 season equal 1 year so they didn't arrive at the Mars attack.

No, they did it because 1 season of Lower Decks episodes isn't equal to the average amount of episodes TNG Seasons had. It had nothing to do with Picard.

It's just part of their humour.
 
Is there a citation for this?

Season 3 episode 6 was the 26th episode of Lower Decks was the first episode set in January 2381. The first 2 and half seasons was set in 2380 (I'm almost certain someone said S1E1 took place in January 2380, but I can't find it now).

So I was off by a bit, every 13 episodes equals roughly 1 year in Lower Decks.

This is one of the co-producers of the show
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That does line up with 1000 stardates being approx a year as S01E01 is stardate 57436.2 and S03E06 is stardate 58456.2.
Just means January is (approx) XX400 in the cycle and not XX000.
 
That does line up with 1000 stardates being approx a year as S01E01 is stardate 57436.2 and S03E06 is stardate 58456.2.
Just means January is (approx) XX400 in the cycle and not XX000.
Hm, episodes with stardate XX400 usually would have aired in January, so there's a kind of logic here.
 
So...uh...anyone come up with a continuity-retfix that lets us keep @Dayton Ward's In the Name of Honor and DC Comics' Debt of Honor in the current canon-continuity (i.e., the whole "Ensign Garrovick"-issue)?
 
The one who got killed was a brother or cousin (or same name, no relation) of the one from “Obsession”? I don’t think PRO called back to anything specific about him beyond his name.
 
So...uh...anyone come up with a continuity-retfix that lets us keep @Dayton Ward's In the Name of Honor and DC Comics' Debt of Honor in the current canon-continuity (i.e., the whole "Ensign Garrovick"-issue)?

The one who got killed was a brother or cousin (or same name, no relation) of the one from “Obsession”? I don’t think PRO called back to anything specific about him beyond his name.

Or alternatively, the one from PRO was the one from "Obsession", and the ones from In the Name of Honor and Debt of Honor were different? According to MA, the one from ItNoH had the first name Stephen, and the one from DoH had the first name Tom, but the one from the TOS episode had the first name David.

I tried skimming through DoH, and the only thing I found about Garrovick (spelled "Garrovik" for some reason) that tied into TOS was that his father was the captain of the ship where Starfleet first encountered the creatures in the book, which was the Farragut. I didn't see any references to the events of "Obsession" itself, or even any references mentioning Kirk and Garrovick serving together, so you could interpret him as David's brother without contradicting anything in the story (assuming I didn't miss anything).

I imagine ItNoH probably did have some references to "Obsession", but I didn't really have time to go through a whole novel! :lol: So I don't know how well it would work to interpret Stephen as a different character.

I know it obviously wasn't the author's intent that these be different characters from the ensign from "Obsession", but it could theoretically work, in the DoH case, at least.
 
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