Reception detail TSFS?

[Timo]

..which we're led to understand begins only a couple of weeks after the end of TVH

...But then again, it might be more like months. They have to swap the bridge module, after all!

Why did the ST4 costumers fuck up? It doesn't sound like something they would do lightly and without consideration, costuming a main character in a sequel. Especially after getting two sequels more or less right already. Did they just read the first half of the costuming instructions for ST3, which of course begin with "Doohan wears item 24B, the Commander pin"?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[cardinal biggles]

I have no idea why they screwed up on that, especially since this was the last of the four films Bob Fletcher worked on, and he'd done such a good job keeping the incredibly complex system of ranks and departments he devised for TMP and TWOK straight during the first three films.

Maybe someone (and by someone, I mean Harve Bennett or Leonard Nimoy... or maybe Shatner's Ego ) thought having Scotty be a Captain (when Spock is also a Captain, and Kirk is an Admiral who gets busted down to Captain at the end) would be confusing to folks who hadn't seen The Search for Spock. In the grand scheme of things, it's something most people wouldn't notice. And in the grand scheme of costuming mistakes, it doesn't even come close to that horrendous mix-and-match nightmare that was Lt. (Commander?) Valeris, the half-cadet.

 

[Timo]

Time for the usual rant: we've never seen a uniform feature that would be associated with being a "cadet". That is, none of the features worn on Lieutenant Saavik would be associated with cadethood, because Saavik wasn't a cadet.

So having a red collar on a commissioned, graduated officer would not be an error, as it never was that in ST2:TWoK. The other errors, such as a mismatched shoulder strap, odd choice for trouser stripe color, or rank insignia higher than the rank by which the character is addressed... now, that's a mix-and-match. But let's not involve any "cadets" here, shall we? :thumbsup:

Timo Saloniemi

 

[cardinal biggles]

Time for the usual response: It's only a movie.

 

[Data Holmes]

Time for the usual rant: we've never seen a uniform feature that would be associated with being a "cadet". That is, none of the features worn on Lieutenant Saavik would be associated with cadethood, because Saavik wasn't a cadet.

So having a red collar on a commissioned, graduated officer would not be an error, as it never was that in ST2:TWoK. The other errors, such as a mismatched shoulder strap, odd choice for trouser stripe color, or rank insignia higher than the rank by which the character is addressed... now, that's a mix-and-match. But let's not involve any "cadets" here, shall we? :thumbsup:

Timo Saloniemi

Except that flame red was specifically designed as "cadet and trainee division" color.

 

[Nebusj]

Except that flame red was specifically designed as "cadet and trainee division" color.

Might be designed that way, but when was it canonically established?

 

[Philo]

Speaking of the torpedo room set, does anybody else think that when some Starfleet spies first got their hands on specs for the new K't'inga-Class Battlecruisers, they said to themselves, "You know, that'd make a great torpedo room!"?