Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread
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I'm sure there are plans, but they haven't been announced yet. It's normal in the entertainment industry for plans to be kept under wraps until the time is right to announce them, so just because we haven't heard about something doesn't mean it isn't being developed. I've heard that Feige and his team have plans worked out nearly a decade in advance, I think, but they only make announcements when they're good and ready, so there's a ton of stuff we don't know about yet, including most of Phase 6.
It seems likely that Kate Bishop, Riri Williams, Cassie Lang, and others are being set up for a Young Avengers project down the road. I don't think second seasons of Moon Knight and She-Hulk have been ruled out. They were probably waiting to see how well they did before deciding whether to do more, the same as series TV has always worked.
Cool. Can I live in this world?
There aren't any official TV shows in Phase 6 yet, but there's a lot of announced projects (the Wakanda series, the new animated Spider Man, What If...? Season 3, Marvel Zombies, Wonder Man, Vision Quest, the Nova series) which presumably will be Phase 6 productions. That's already a pretty full backlog of shows which we're unlikely to see any earlier than mid-2024.
It's a bit of an aside, changing the phases so that Phase 4 arbitrarily ends at the end of 2022, and Phase 5 ends...whenever...just strikes me as wrong. They really should have figured out a way to cap it all with an Avengers movie of a smaller scale, like Age of Ultron, in the middle of the Multiverse saga. Which is sort of part of the issue now...pacing. We're basically going through four years of setup without any real big team-up movies interspersed.
Yeah, it's possible. Plus there are other characters already dropped who play a role in the Young Avengers in the comics, like Wanda's sons, Eli Bradly, America Chavez, kid Loki, maybe Hulk's son, etc.
Of course, if they wait too long, some of these characters won't really be Young Avengers. Kate Bishop, Cassie Lang, Riri Williams...they're all played by 25 year olds. If they slip the Young Avengers back too long, they'll all be pushing 30.
Various rumours going round on twitter (but no solid stories to link to) that Jon Bernthal’s Punisher will return for Phase 5.
I don't see what that matters. What matters to me is the quality of the individual shows and movies. How they fit together globally is a secondary concern. They aren't just "setup" for something else, they're the actual thing themselves. They include setup and foreshadowing for the future, but that is secondary. It's not the exclusive purpose of the exercise. If you're constantly worrying about where things will go in the future, you don't let yourself enjoy things in the moment.
Nobody was clamoring for a Guardians of the Galaxy movie either.
I was on the fence about an Echo show at first, but seeing the character in action has changed my mind completely.
I'll sound flippant and well, that's where I am at with MCU but good. I don't want to see the big team up films. To me, the biggest downside to the initial phases of the MCU was the fact that it felt very urgent-you have to see this film in preparation for the team up. For me, I'd rather have individual films (or shows) that are all about a wider variety of characters without the crash towards the "Big Event."
I would rather have individual films that are well done in of themselves and feel no urgency afterwards. Just, "That was a good film." and be satisfied by that.
On November 4, 1977(45 Years Ago Tonight) the telefilm that launched Bill Bixby's The Incredible Hulk was first aired by CBS.
I knew nothing about Echo but when I saw her on Hawkeye I was so blown away by the character and how they introduced her to the series. As I said last year, Echo is my most anticipated marvel show now.
https://www.nme.com/news/film/quentin-tarantino-reveals-why-hell-never-do-a-marvel-movie-3342931
Tarantino would never do Marvel movies. Says auteurs will "rejoice" when superhero movies go the way of high budget movie musicals.
Tarantino would never do Marvel movies. Says auteurs will "rejoice" when superhero movies go the way of high budget movie musicals.
I actually agree with you kinda-sorta, but I feel like the issue with not having an Avengers movie for four years is basically that Marvel instead keeps putting the third act of Avengers: Endgame into what were formerly quite promising movies or TV shows. That is to say, if you're going to do origin stories you really should be dealing with personal stakes and not epic stakes. Shang-Chi, for example, should have stuck to the conflict between father and son and not brought in the stupid dimension-eating dragon. WandaVision should have remained focused on Wanda's grief, not added a pointless CGI battle with Agatha. Eternals certainly shouldn't have had the Earth nearly destroyed in their first outing. There was no reason to threaten the Earth in either Moon Knight or Ms. Marvel. Some stories got the stakes right. I was really happy that both Hawkeye and She Hulk were basically stories concerned with the characters, not with the entire universe. But in general I feel like more of these initial outings should be in the range of Spiderman: Homecoming to Iron Man.
But I think we need more team ups - not necessarily full Avengers movies, but team ups - because the beauty of a lot of the MCU is having established characters bouncing off one another. Like most of the reason Thor: Ragnarok worked is that Thor/Hulk was an inspired matchup in character dynamics. Sticking to a format which is largely origin stories with a few cameos from time to time kinda robs us of this.
I mean, I see no issue with that. I knew next nothing about Endgame or whatever and just enjoyed the film. And I did. So, I can't really say that didn't work because I liked the film as it stood. I was unconcerned about any other Marvel film or what the dragon meant. Struck me as just building on Chinese mythology which I really liked.
I mean, I'll take your word for it because I haven't seen most of those shows. I doubt I'm missing much.
I think that Daredevil did a good job with it in it's run in terms of stakes. But, I'm not also not someone who cares too much if Earth is threatened in a story, since that strikes me as pretty standard superhero fare.
See, and I'm OK either way. I didn't care much for Thor Ragnarok because it was Thor/Hulk and then Thor/Loki when I really just want a movie about Thor. Even She-Hulk is weird because it has a team up that wasn't really expected and still uncertain how I feel about that.
There were times when I almost forgot that Shang-Chi was a Marvel movie, since it's really more of a wuxia movie at heart.
Indeed. I enjoyed it all the more for it.
It's okay, no one really would watch a MCU movie where all we did was see a characters' feet.
I wonder if "auteurs" (
) will "rejoice" when people stop going to movie theaters. I actually love Tarantino movies, but the last one I saw in a movie theater was Pulp Fiction.
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