Spoilers The Ships of Lower Decks

[Dukhat]

I’ve noticed that ships with an NX registry are referred to as the class ship (Excelsior, Defiant, Galaxy, etc.), so maybe the whole ‘class named after the first ship’ only applies to experimental vessels.

 

[valkyrie013]

For Luna class there is a Uss Luna.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

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[matthunter]

I'd have loved it if the Texas-Class ship had a whmm-whmm Knight Rider style glowey light. And if it had changed from red to yellow when they went evil, in homage to KARR.

 

[fireproof78]

Be too much of a Cylon image.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Agreed. Few people remember KARR. Fewer remember Goliath. Everyone knows what a Cylon is. TOS/Mooreverse is irrelevant.

However, it’s exactly the kind of thing that Lower Decks would do IF Paramount/CBS owned BSG and not Universal.

 

[Enterprise1701]

Two observations:
If Aledo is NA-01, what would be the registry of the presumed class-ship, the USS Texas? Or are pilot ships no longer named for the class now?
Also, that NA-01 registry reminds me of the mission patch in "First Flight" that was (mistakingly) labeled NA-01 instead of NX-01. It's canon now lol.

Good point about the registry. Unless the Texas’s registry is NA-00. Or maybe there is no USS Texas.

Going back to the episode, Buenamigo does say the Aledo is the 'first of three' automated starships... So maybe there is no USS Texas indeed.

There are 2 ways to pick a class name. Usually its after the first ship, but if you decide to give the entire class themed names then you can choose to call the class by the theme instead. Sometimes you might initially name it for the theme but later decide to switch to the first ship. For example, I think Starship class vessels are all named after famous starships. Later, Starfleet changed policy and switched the class name to Constitution. Danube class ships may have had something similar happen. Luna class ships are actually both since Luna means moon.

Unfortunately, given the real-world-time precedent of the Sagan-class U.S.S. Stargazer (NCC-82893) from PIC season 2, I suspect the Kurtzman team disposed of previous Trek trends to avoid having any U.S.S. Sagan or U.S.S. Texas.

I am quite annoyed, though to be fair, the Berman team did write themselves into a bit of a corner by introducing Jonathan Archer's Enterprise (NX-01) in ENT despite no one in VOY 4.26 questioning why the apparent U.S.S. Dauntless (NX-01-A) was biting Archer's style for no reason.

The novels had it both ways with the Vesta- class. Originally there were seven ships built, named after the for the seven hills of Rome, with Vesta just being the theme/project name, but eventually the writers needed another one, so they retconned that there actually had been a USS Vesta but its frame was overstressed during its shakedown cruise and the ship was mothballed until it was eventually repaired and brought into service.

Whoa, I had thought that there had been a Vesta all along, and wondered which 1 of the 7 hills had been left out.

Heh, in that case, though, I find the U.S.S. Vesta (82601) to have an acceptable registry in the system.

 

[Tuskin38]

Unfortunately, given the real-world-time precedent of the Sagan-class U.S.S. Stargazer (NCC-82893) from PIC season 2, I suspect the Kurtzman team disposed of previous Trek trends to avoid having any U.S.S. Sagan or U.S.S. Texas.

There’s no evidence that a USS Sagan doesn’t exist..

The USS Luna was in PIC season 2 and is going to show up on at least a computer screen in PIC S3.

The USS Akira, USS Reliant, USS Gagarin, USS Excelsior, USS Sutherland and USS Ross are also all name classes that showed up in Season 2.

 

[Enterprise1701]

There’s no evidence that a USS Sagan doesn’t exist..

Did you listen to Seven of Nine's dialogue in PIC 2.01? I really do not think she is the kind of person to not know what she is talking about when the matter is Borg technology.

 

[Markonian]

She said the Stargazer is the first of a new class of ships with Borg technology. Perhaps class here can mean “generation”? As in, the Sagan is a run of the mill Sagan class but the Stargazer is Starfleet’s first Borg-augmented ship.

 

[David cgc]

She said the Stargazer is the first of a new class of ships with Borg technology. Perhaps class here can mean “generation”? As in, the Sagan is a run of the mill Sagan class but the Stargazer is Starfleet’s first Borg-augmented ship.

I think something similar was implied about Voyager and the gel-packs.

 

[Tuskin38]

Did you listen to Seven of Nine's dialogue in PIC 2.01? I really do not think she is the kind of person to not know what she is talking about when the matter is Borg technology.

It could just mean the Stargazer was first to get those upgrades.

 

[mikelima777]

It is also possible that in the 24th Century, Starfleet began to design ships that were ordered in batches, and for one reason or another, turned to pre-1945 British/Commonwealth naming traditions for non-Capital ships.
The British had (Letter)-class destroyers, Tribal-class destroyers, County-class heavy cruisers, Town-class light cruisers (twice), Crown Colony-class cruisers, and Admiral-class battlecruisers, among others. This did eventually switch up to naming after the lead ship.

It is also interesting that USS San Francisco (in beta canon a Galaxy-class) and USS Los Angeles are not part of the California class as shown in the finale, though Dallas was one of the Texas class.

 

[fireproof78]

It is also interesting that USS San Francisco (in beta canon a Galaxy-class) and USS Los Angeles are not part of the California class as shown in the finale, though Dallas was one of the Texas class.

Someone commented, not sure where (probably another thread or the episode thread) that they did not list all the California class ships, as the person listing off the names was cut off in dialog.

 

[Spike730]

Perhaps the USS Texas was a crewed ship with an NCC-registry and then Buenamigo "hijacked" the class for his NA-project.

 

[Spike730]

Someone commented, not sure where (probably another thread or the episode thread) that they did not list all the California class ships, as the person listing off the names was cut off in dialog.

Yup, Boimler didn't mention the Merced for example.

 

[Spike730]

Paramount+ posted graphics of the different Cali paintjobs. Alhambra is NCC-75256.

https://twitter.com/StarTrekOnPPlus/status/1587852039207485440

 

[Lakenheath 72]

At time stamp 27:57 in the episode, I counted approximately 30 Cali-class ships. Boimler named 19 ships, while the captains of three other ships (Merced, Carlsbad, Inglewood) identified themselves. This would leave 8 or so ships unnamed, with two of them possibly being the Bakersfield and the Ventura.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I loved seeing all the Cali color variations. Being not-front-line ships like the Galaxies and Sovereigns and whatnot, they seem to have a kind of "Pirate Fleet" flavor. They don't have to worry about raising the eyebrows of tight-assed admirals, so they boost their morale and crew pride by giving their ships custom paint jobs. I hope we get to see them all in official top-views, one day.

 

[Birb-of-Prey]

I loved seeing all the Cali color variations. Being not-front-line ships like the Galaxies and Sovereigns and whatnot, they seem to have a kind of "Pirate Fleet" flavor. They don't have to worry about raising the eyebrows of tight-assed admirals, so they boost their morale and crew pride by giving their ships custom paint jobs. I hope we get to see them all in official top-views, one day.

It makes me think of STO's ship customizations.