Cut the quips

[fireproof78]

I use to think that. Until I talked with a group of Vietnam veterans. I no longer think that.

 

[Sci]

It was implied.

No. You just have some fucked up ideas about what men are like and then projected that onto my statement.

And there's nothing wrong with saying it needs to change. Hatred towards white men is the one form of bigotry allowed around here and for the life of me, I can't figure out why that is.

Yet more projection.

You are a textbook example here of a guy who sees equality breaking out and thinks that he's being oppressed by it.

 

[Mutai Sho-Rin]

That's probably because you're one of those who think the bigotry is okay.

This stops NOW or a trolling warning will follow.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

Why not? I'm tired of hearing how disgusting we men are. Fine. Everybody has made that point ad nausem for the last decade or so. Let's beat another dead horse for a while.

See here's the thing - asking people to consider unconscious bias is NOT the same as saying all men are disgusting. That you assume so, that you feel personally attacked is part of the problem. Rather than pause and consider "hhmm, is it unconscious bias for some people? Is it for me?" Then maybe you examine what's in your heart and mind and compare how you feel about the same behavior when the character is male. Maybe you decide, "nope, it's not bias in my case but I can't speak to what's in the hearts and minds of others." And we go on about our merry ways.

Is that possible for you? I have a son. He's a standup comedian. And he has to question unconscious bias in his field all the time. It doesn't make him less funny. It makes him sharper.

 

[The Wormhole]

Coming in three weeks later to respond to a poster who was requested by a moderator to drop the topic under penalty of a warning is not a good idea at all.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Is anyone else sick of the constant rain of clever/snarky comments everyone makes before doing anything in this show? I feel a more serious approach would greatly improve SNW.

*looks at his comedic sci-fi parodies that he makes a living from*

I may be biased but....no.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

Coming in three weeks later to respond to a poster who was requested by a moderator to drop the topic under penalty of a warning is not a good idea at all.

If you're talking to me then perhaps allow the moderator to warn me? And I had been following the thread prior to this point in time but I often have to retreat from these kinds of discussions until I'm not in danger of responding unreasonably.

 

[The Wormhole]

And I had been following the thread prior to this point in time

Had you? You haven't posted in this thread up until now.

Regardless, had you indeed been following this thread, you'd have noticed the post right before yours a moderator informed Randy to drop the matter or face a warning, and Randy has complied. Which means you came into this thread and replied to Randy knowing he can't reply to you. Does that seem in anyway fair?

 

[T'Bonz]

Yeah, this is a bad look. Everyone else stopped. I will throw a warning on it.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

Had you? You haven't posted in this thread up until now.

Regardless, had you indeed been following this thread, you'd have noticed the post right before yours a moderator informed Randy to drop the matter or face a warning, and Randy has complied. Which means you came into this thread and replied to Randy knowing he can't reply to you. Does that seem in anyway fair?

I'm just going to say, you're assuming a lot about my motives. I'm an old lady who likes Star Trek. I had been following the thread, liked some of the responses but didn't post. I don't post often. I didn't realize he couldn't respond. My bad absolutely.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I think Erica is more quippy as a helmsman then I'd like. She's the only one that bothers me.
That being said, the more serious Erica in "A Quality of Mercy" worked well, and, conversely, the idea that she might be a "Scotty-style" chief engineer in S2 sounds like a fun idea. I'd be happy with either.

I have no doubt that Ortegas is capable of taking a situation seriously if and when the situation calls for it.

Put it another way: Bruce Campbell - yes,, THE Bruce Campbell - actually played it straight when he appeared on Homicide: Life on the Street back in the day. Now just think about that for a minute. If a character played by one of the quippiest actors in the biz can drop the attitude for at least one episode, then surely Ortegas can too?

 

[fireproof78]

I have no doubt that Ortegas is capable of taking a situation seriously if and when the situation calls for it.

Put it another way: Bruce Campbell - yes,, THE Bruce Campbell - actually played it straight when he appeared on Homicide: Life on the Street back in the day. Now just think about that for a minute. If a character played by one of the quippiest actors in the biz can drop the attitude for at least one episode, then surely Ortegas can too?

Can? Yes.

Should she? I say no.

Mileage will vary.