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"Star Trek: Picard" is a Groundbreaking Show

Wow, I remember Carol Kane from the one Seinfeld episode and of course Latka's wife on Taxi. She's been is massive amounts of TV and movies going back to 1971.

Should be interesting how the new character is played. A gruff smartass like Reno? A "miracle worker"?
 
Well, Mr. Patrick was, what 45 when Tng first popped up? and the rest were in there 30s.
If you look at Tos, Deforest and James Doohan were in there mid 40s.
With Patrick getting his own show, he is at the top of most popular captains, and a great actor, and they wanted him, so they had to accommodate him and his needs/wants in the shooting schedule. He could have probably called a 2 week break to catch is breath.
 
And casting such an "old" actor was both a blessing and a curse - they did their best to accomodate him but I do know that the whole thing demanded every last ounce of his strength. LeVar Burton even made a remark that, by the end of season 3's shooting, the entire rest of the TNG cast had to help Sir Patrick in various ways because he was struggling so much with everything (I absolutely cannot blame him, I'd crumble after two DAYS of shooting and he endured shooting two whole SEASONS back to back). Casting a much older actor in a leading role also comes with certain restrictions - they also had to accomodate the shooting schedule of the show because Sir Patrick gets too tired in the afternoons. So, they started extremely early in the mornings. Etc etc. You have to be willing to go to these extra lengths, and sadly, a lot of studios are not, and I'm not sure if casting Sir Patrick will pave the way for more shows like this, or if it even paved the way for casting an older actress for SNW - she's 70 and not the leading role, I therefore don't see any of the "accomodation issues" popping up that they had with Sir Patrick.

But, of course, if it turns out that Sir Patrick paved the way for this decision I'm all for it (I'm just not sure if these two cases can be compared directly because it's a different setting and a different premise and a different kind of role). I absolutely loathe Hollywood's obsession with youth.
Patrick Stewart does not need to put himself through this… but he does. He must *really* care about the work that he is doing on season 3 of Picard, he must be doing it out of love and dedication.

Perhaps *this* attitude is why he is a ‘Sir Patrick Stewart’ - a knight of the realm.

I *really* appreciate this mans work - age is not a barrier despite the fact that it might make *any* job a lot more difficult. It must be difficult to accept when our bodies eventually begin to give up and slow down through age but our minds are as astute and active as ever… our physical and mental selves slowly becoming more and more ‘out of sync’ to the point of frustration and despair. It comes to us all…

Patrick Stewart is almost like a virtual ‘surragate’ dad to me (and millions of others!)… we 1990’s Star Trek fans literally grew up watching this man. In my case, due to family complications I experienced when I was younger he was probably one of the most influential and accessible male role models in my early life. It was either him or Peter Andre. :shrug:

This guy is legendary. I for one salute you, Sir Patrick Stewart. :bolian:

Looking forward to meeting Carol Kane too! She is looking smokin’ hot! :D
 
Sir Patrick Stewart has to be the oldest actor ever cast in a leading role in a Star Trek series.

The Berman-era days of actors having to be young and smokin' hot are over. Seventy-year-old Carol Kane has just been cast as Chief Engineer Pelia in S2 of Strange New Worlds:

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Would this have been possible had not Sir Patrick broken down the door?

Sure. She's a recurring character, not one of the stars.

Auberjenois was in his fifties when he played Odo. The cast of the TOS-based movies were pushing Social Security eligibility almost from the time of the revival.

There's no evidence that SNW is taking any of their cues from the other Kurtzman shows, other than those they inherited from their season two STD tryout - and they've changed about as much of that as they can, visually at least. They have their own ideas about what they're doing.

Aside from which, while I'd grant "young" for many of the cast members there are very few Trek actors of the TOS-Enterprise generations that I'd call anything like "smoking hot."

SNW, OTOH...
 
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Auberjenois was in his fifties when he played Odo.

He also wore a ton of latex ... so it really didn't matter what he looked like underneath.

The cast of the TOS-based movies were pushing Social Security eligibility almost from the time of the revival.

They had a history behind them.
 
He also wore a ton of latex ... so it really didn't matter what he looked like underneath.

Whatever; he didn't sound young or smoking hot, either. :lol:

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He sounds and behaves like an old man.
 
Sir Patrick Stewart has to be the oldest actor ever cast in a leading role in a Star Trek series.

The Berman-era days of actors having to be young and smokin' hot are over. Seventy-year-old Carol Kane has just been cast as Chief Engineer Pelia in S2 of Strange New Worlds:

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Would this have been possible had not Sir Patrick broken down the door?

Great points!

I loathe it when someone says "Someone over aged x can't play z character." It's ageism, which is like pointing to that big blue thingy after looking upward and calling it "sky".

To be fair, I never watch shows because of how haaaaaaaawt someone is for the sake of allegedly being haaaaaaaawt. That's shallow. Attraction isn't so broad or glib a concept to begin with. Not to mention the far more obvious, in that the chances of these characters wanting to date the audience is fairly slim, mostly because they're not real. The actors even less so, because of the same reason - individual attraction, size of dating pool, blahblahblabble, et cetera.

Also note that David McCallum (Illya Kuryakin - no relation to Irina Galliulin, Steel, et al...) is still doing quite a bit of work and never fails to be engaging.

She's still not unattractive, whatever that means to whomever, and doesn't exactly look 70 either. Could one argue that she looks younger than Patrick Stewart circa 1987?

Cool set design too BTW... :luvlove:
 
And casting such an "old" actor was both a blessing and a curse - they did their best to accomodate him but I do know that the whole thing demanded every last ounce of his strength. LeVar Burton even made a remark that, by the end of season 3's shooting, the entire rest of the TNG cast had to help Sir Patrick in various ways because he was struggling so much with everything (I absolutely cannot blame him, I'd crumble after two DAYS of shooting and he endured shooting two whole SEASONS back to back). Casting a much older actor in a leading role also comes with certain restrictions - they also had to accomodate the shooting schedule of the show because Sir Patrick gets too tired in the afternoons. So, they started extremely early in the mornings. Etc etc.

Wow, does Burton have any discretion at all? Did Stewart authorise him to make public such personal information? If not and I were Stewart, LB would definitely be crossed off my Christmas card list this year ...
 
Wow, does Burton have any discretion at all? Did Stewart authorise him to make public such personal information? If not and I were Stewart, LB would definitely be crossed off my Christmas card list this year ...

Sir Patrick himself stated on numerous occasions that he was extremely exhausted by the end of shooting PIC. And why not admit this? It would make zero sense for him to pretend that everything was super peachy and he managed to go through a whole year of shooting without breaking a sweat. He himself even said that there was a day when they made him work 11 hours and the director eventually sent him home because he simply couldn’t concentrate anymore. It’s therefore not a secret that he was exhausted, Burton wasn’t exactly revealing any secrets.

People have to face it (as much as this seems to be difficult for some Trekkies in particular who seem to think time stopped for him after TNG) - Sir Patrick IS in his 80s, and, as much as he’s still fit and all, it shows by now. The sooner people realize this the better. Aging is a normal process. Pretending to be unaffected by it is not normal.
 
WOW...Carol Kane looks GREAT...she ages so slow..lol.

Looking forward to seeing her on SNW.
 
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I would've preferred any of The Golden Girls to play the androids Doji or Smahj, though only Betty White lived long enough for the launch of Picard.
 
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