Grilled cheese sandwiches, yes. Peanut butter sandwiches? NO.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Ok first post!! This seems like a good enough thread! 500 pages wow its a novel…
controversial… id say the worst part is the lack of direct continuity of where the concept came from and its true roots…
franchise creators will say who influenced them yada but we are left to piece together the continuity. Fans will often want to break with the roots and steer things this way or that… in their own minds or collectively by actually altering the course of the movement for real.
Our society has lost the frenetic pace of the early 20th century
our modern tech and internet 21st have been an echo by comparison. Sound and fury not much real movement
so my most controversial trek opinion is that it was set in the future to delude you, it is really about the past… the culture of dignity and propriety (albeit only if you conform) that peaked in those times and was basically the tail end of the renaissance…
Basically “what if our present culture, 50s america, with its european rooted notions… could persist far into the future…”
strong hunch just based on Roddenberry’s bio…
brings to mind doc ee smith… and the kind of values he was able to imprint into… superman, trek, then star wars in that order.
anyway screen media has not seemed to be able to escape the gravitational pull of the era that spawned it and likely will not..
we still live in an era of crime and punisment, where rules are ultimately enforced with deadly weapons instead of patiently convincing people… the future is not going to be like this at all…
savant mathematics in my head tells me so if you need proof come visit we’ll sit a spell!!
controversial… id say the worst part is the lack of direct continuity of where the concept came from and its true roots…
franchise creators will say who influenced them yada but we are left to piece together the continuity. Fans will often want to break with the roots and steer things this way or that… in their own minds or collectively by actually altering the course of the movement for real.
Our society has lost the frenetic pace of the early 20th century
our modern tech and internet 21st have been an echo by comparison. Sound and fury not much real movement
so my most controversial trek opinion is that it was set in the future to delude you, it is really about the past… the culture of dignity and propriety (albeit only if you conform) that peaked in those times and was basically the tail end of the renaissance…
Basically “what if our present culture, 50s america, with its european rooted notions… could persist far into the future…”
strong hunch just based on Roddenberry’s bio…
brings to mind doc ee smith… and the kind of values he was able to imprint into… superman, trek, then star wars in that order.
anyway screen media has not seemed to be able to escape the gravitational pull of the era that spawned it and likely will not..
we still live in an era of crime and punisment, where rules are ultimately enforced with deadly weapons instead of patiently convincing people… the future is not going to be like this at all…
savant mathematics in my head tells me so if you need proof come visit we’ll sit a spell!!
A grilled Elvis sandwich is sublime, IMO. With honey, but I usually prefer it without the bacon.
Kor
Well, you can...it's technically got almost all the vital nutrients in it. My mom had a patient and that was all he ate. Extremely healthy.
Need to get my post count up asap!! Cadet my eye!
tng biggest bif… the arboretum needed to be a lot bigger!
tng biggest bif… the arboretum needed to be a lot bigger!
1930s America, really, but yes. We're still stuck in the New Deal and need a Newer Deal.
Yes but i meant roddenberrys vision which was probably 50s echo of 30s and on and on but i would trace it to the european renaissance as the origin and the echoes in trek to classics era learning (greeks) etc
tng has a much more pbs educational tv disguised as drama feel that is great compared to tos…
its all very one sided in the perspective presented… but like the arboretum… on the enterprise… you have to make it what it was supposed to be… epic…
the actual messiness of things here irl… id say cultures want to be one thing but end up something else…
the obvious parallels to the (ugh again) european sea explorers of the renaissance-modern era is huge in trek….
i dont know what this all means but my trek vhs collection sure isnt goin on ebay!!!
tng has a much more pbs educational tv disguised as drama feel that is great compared to tos…
its all very one sided in the perspective presented… but like the arboretum… on the enterprise… you have to make it what it was supposed to be… epic…
the actual messiness of things here irl… id say cultures want to be one thing but end up something else…
the obvious parallels to the (ugh again) european sea explorers of the renaissance-modern era is huge in trek….
i dont know what this all means but my trek vhs collection sure isnt goin on ebay!!!
Op asked for controversy Vice Admiral Oddish. Sir!
plus this is a 500 page mega thread… or i am trying hard to get it to 500… but i read you sir! Loud and clear
my point being and to the point the goat controversy of star trek is none but its inescapable origins but still it brings more to the table and really has a chance to break break break the white man/woman/person’s curse!
But they obviously need to get back to their roots (sorry that was the punchline)
anyway…
plus this is a 500 page mega thread… or i am trying hard to get it to 500… but i read you sir! Loud and clear
my point being and to the point the goat controversy of star trek is none but its inescapable origins but still it brings more to the table and really has a chance to break break break the white man/woman/person’s curse!
But they obviously need to get back to their roots (sorry that was the punchline)
anyway…
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I can eat peanut butter and butter sandwiches for a long time.
But I will need bacon in between at times. Bacon is very good for you.
I'll take your word for it.
Bacon is very, very good for you.
Well... for your taste buds and your soul, anyway.
(I've been called the President of the Bacon Fan Club at my previous job and by my wife and her family. I heartily believe it is a deserved title.
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Well... for your taste buds and your soul, anyway.
(I've been called the President of the Bacon Fan Club at my previous job and by my wife and her family. I heartily believe it is a deserved title.
)
You will tire of them. Variety is the spice of life.
And as to portraying the future, I've said before. Science Fiction is more about the time in which it is written than any supposed future.
My wife thoroughly enjoys bacon. I am indifferent to it. I think it is good but prefer sausage or ham steak.Bacon is very, very good for you.
Well... for your taste buds and your soul, anyway.
(I've been called the President of the Bacon Fan Club at my previous job and by my wife and her family. I heartily believe it is a deserved title.
So? Do you seriously believe that you are telling me something new with either of those statements?
Still I would love the convenience.
Breakfast sausage is one of the only things that actually turns my stomach. Not the taste, but something about it just does a number in my belly. Perhaps too much concentrated grease.
I can understand that. I have to be very selective on what I get, and usually in small quantities. I'm usually baking them in the oven to reduce the grease a little bit.
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