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To be fair to Archer, that reaction could very well be the fact it's multiple wives and husbands. I find the idea of having multiple wives daunting, never mind multiples of both genders. It may simply be just too many cooks in the kitchen for Archer's taste, and I can't say I blame him.

Heinlein presented line and clan marriage as normal in multiple books.

A clan would be the multiple spouses of all available genders. A line marriage is a similar, but younger spouses are brought in over time to keep the line going.
 
I find it hard to believe that "fill in the gaps" representation is acceptable to those who society has often tried to render invisible. Asian and Black kids around the world saw Sulu and Uhura on the bridge and thought "hey someone who looks like me". Some of those went on to be actors, astronauts and scientists because they saw a future that included them. I can't believe a show with an all white cast and them pretending that all the POC characters were just off screen or around the corner, would have had the same impact. The same goes for LGBTQ+ kids watching to day. Seeing Stamets, Culber, Adira and any other LGBTQ+ can inspire and encourage them the way that Uhura and Sulu did for a previous generation. And that won't happen if LGBTQ+ characters are "left to the imagination". Frankly it's always a thrill to see someone like you no matter how "insignificant". I get a thrill when a character on TV or film is left handed because I am too.
 
I knew there had to be another left handed person out there! :beer:

Three of us!

I remember when I was the only left-handed person I knew about who liked Star Trek. Things were much better in those days.

Nowadays knowing there are three people who are left handed… well, I guess every fandom gets ruined some time or another. It’s just like Star Wars now.
 
Yeah I know WE exist but I’ve personally never understood the obsession with “inclusivity” and “representation”. To me, I’m not defined by my sexuality. I’m a human first and a gay man second. To me, shows just pander. Anyways.

Well then you should know how important it is for young homosexual people struggling with coming to terms with their sexuality to have positive role models that show you can be a homosexual man/woman, trans etc. and still be a valuable member of society.
And I'm not talking about having gay people just to have gay people, but have people who happen to be gay. There's enough characters in 90s Trek, like Harry or Geordi who could have desperately needed a storyline to flesh out their characters, why not make that storyline a same-sex romance that's treated exactly the way a hetero romance owuld have been treated.
Plus in a franchise were there's whole episodes about hetero couples frolicking together (and where, for example, the pilot of TNG went out of his way to show a woman leering at Riker's ass) I don't see how a couple same-sex flirtations or relationships would be "pandering".
 
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Here's one I've mentioned before, but it's been a while. Trek should have ended with TWOK. It would have been a glorious close to the franchise.
Interesting thought, especially since I just rewatched TWOK. It certainly could've been a terrific ending for the original cast. But I would've been sad not to get TUC. :)

I'll go one step further: TWOK should have ended with Spock's death and no resurrection out. I loved IV and VI, but the story TWOK was telling is so much powerful if Spock's sacrifice is final and Kirk truly has to deal with the consequences of command.
I never thought I'd say this, but I agree. Spock's death is SO powerful!

The IDIC symbol was created specifically as a commercial commodity and shoehorned into the show to sell pendants. Reportedly this was actually in response to viewer demand for such stuff. But the philosophical concept certainly didn't have much in common with anything that had been depicted about Vulcan beliefs before that (or after, for that matter).
Which is a shame IMO. I love both the symbol and what it stands for.

Multiple spouses don't seem to be commonplace amongst humans of the future in Trek. Perhaps Archer was thinking that such a family structure would have a lot of rivalry and jealousy, not love among the spouses of the same gender.

I wonder how large Denobulan extended families can get, if males typically have three wives and females typically have three husbands. Is it within the realm of conceivability that just about everyone on the planet is 'related by marriage?'
I've always found it interesting that alternate family/marriage structures haven't been explored (other than Phlox), given that there are more openly polyamorous folks now than when I first met some 20+ years ago. Maybe in another decade or two...

You make a good point about Denobulan families, but I wonder about overlap (ie, Person X is married to Persons Y, Z, and A while Person Y is also married to A). Still, it's probably like Royal Families. :lol:

Three of us!

I remember when I was the only left-handed person I knew about who liked Star Trek. Things were much better in those days.

Nowadays knowing there are three people who are left handed… well, I guess every fandom gets ruined some time or another. It’s just like Star Wars now.
You officially win my Best Snark of the Day post! :guffaw:
 
My perhaps-controversial opinion... I like Gooding's singing voice better than Nichols'. I always thought that when Uhura sang in TOS she overdid the vibrato to the point of being exaggeratedly warbly, and it's the same when I've tried listening to the music albums that Nichols released.

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I think it might also be a change of taste and style over the decades. Nichols' version of Uhura both with her singing and ina appearance always reminded me of prominent black singers from that time period, like Diana Ross during the 1960s, which went for a more styled look/sound with her beehive wig and everything.
Gooding's Uhura on the other hand in her singing and appearance fits more with a modern idea of beauty that emphasizes a more natural, simple look/sound.
 
I think it might also be a change of taste and style over the decades. Nichols' version of Uhura both with her singing and ina appearance always reminded me of prominent black singers from that time period, like Diana Ross during the 1960s, which went for a more styled look/sound with her beehive wig and everything.
Reminds me of "Solitude" by Ella Fitzgerald, which I recall from my music class in high school.
 
With those phasers and warp capable (torpedoes) there's no reason why ships fighting each other couldn't be tens of thousands of km apart. In that case, plain windows (without enhancement features) won't do you much good.

But I agree, that's not what Star Trek seems to show.
When Data fought against Sela, it was at extreme ranges.

And long distance fighting can be portrayed in space battles and done right.

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Babylon 5 showed that you can do it correctly with the Battle of Gorash 7.
 
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