Tuvok. How old is he supposed to be anyway?

[fireproof78]

But every now and then, you see the feelings behind the iron wall of discipline that holds them in.

Which is why he makes Voyager enjoyable for me. The Tuvok episodes are among my favorite.

 

[Oddish]

Tim Russ is actually a well regarded comic actor, believe it or not. Seen at 0:55 here...

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[Qonundrum]

I definitely read somwhere about a descrepancy in Tuvok's age. Posssibly there were conflicting statements about his birth year or birth stardate.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvok#Overview

"Flashback" is near the beginning of the third season, and Tuvok seems to be about 107 years old in it. "Unimatrix Zero" is at the end of the sixth season about 4 years later. 107 plus 4 is 111, 112 minus 4 is 108. So some people might think those are close enough, others might think they conflict.

If Vulcans use a base 9 numbering system three digits would be our number 81, if they use base 10 three digits are our number 100, if they use a base 11 system three digits is our number 121, if they use a base 12 system three digits is our 144. Proponents of using a base 12 system claim it has many advantages, so possibly the Vulcans consider it logical to use a base 12 system.

In science fiction stories there can be a difference between the amount of time since a person was born and the amount of time they have been alive. A character in science fiction can be older or younger than the number of years since they were born.

I should have written down the episodes on my last rewatch a few years back.

"Flashback" did specify one year, with numerals and everything. A later episode also has him by number, which is completely incompatible.

That said, headcanoning a different numeric system ranks right up there between Base10, Base12, Base16, boring old binary, and finger counting, so the discrepancy can probably be made to fit, if some variations were used to show a mathematically-consistent translation.

That, or the writers were so burnt out on the continuity they'd striven to cultivate in TNG and DS9... even Seven starts out a stardate with "15781.2" yet the Omega episode wasn't about time travel... dang.

 

[Qonundrum]

Which is why he makes Voyager enjoyable for me. The Tuvok episodes are among my favorite.

^^this

Every Trek show has its flaws, but its strengths outweigh. The exploration of Vulcans via Tuvok was rarely (if ever) short of awesome. Tim Russ quickly nailed the role (other characters were a bit fuzzier early on) and is quick to make it his own. (I also often like his double-act with Neelix, one of few who do...?)

 

[Summer Solstice]

"Flashback" did specify one year, with numerals and everything. A later episode also has him by number, which is completely incompatible.

I think the later episode was "Fury".

 

[fireproof78]

^^this

Every Trek show has its flaws, but its strengths outweigh. The exploration of Vulcans via Tuvok was rarely (if ever) short of awesome. Tim Russ quickly nailed the role (other characters were a bit fuzzier early on) and is quick to make it his own. (I also often like his double-act with Neelix, one of few who do...?)

I don't like Neelix as a character but I thoroughly love his interplay with Tuvok. Riddles still has one of my favorite scenes between the two. Plus Tuvok's outfit looks quite comfortable.

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Powerhouse of a scene between two excellent actors.

 

[urrutiap]

Neelix and Tuvok they were pretty much like Bert and Ernie from old Sesame Street. had to live together but Burt was annoyed by the antics etc

 

[Oddish]

That brings back some memories... between that, watching Tom Hanks recreate Mr. Roger's, and a retrospective on "The Electric Company", that's all my favorite early childhood TV shows.

 

[Weyoun 251]

I don't like Neelix as a character but I thoroughly love his interplay with Tuvok. Riddles still has one of my favorite scenes between the two. Plus Tuvok's outfit looks quite comfortable.

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Powerhouse of a scene between two excellent actors.

That is some of the best acting I've seen in the whole of Trek - it feels honest, and vulnerable; the shot is done as if they are having an actual conversation rather than the more common "theatre" style of both facing the "audience".

 

[Oddish]

I enjoy that one as well. It's too bad Voyager relied so much on the Big Red Reset Button, that episode could have allowed Tuvok's character to evolve... either a little or a lot, depending on how they chose to end it.

 

[The Wormhole]

Neelix and Tuvok they were pretty much like Bert and Ernie from old Sesame Street. had to live together but Burt was annoyed by the antics etc

Well, now you've done it. I'm going to associate the name "Bernie" from now on as being the result of Bert and Ernie getting Tuvixed.

 

[Dee1891]

Tuvok was 107 years old when Voyager got pulled into the Delta Quadrant.

It's too bad Voyager relied so much on the Big Red Reset Button . . .

That usually happened a lot in stories about time travel. What are you talking about? Since when is that a crime? Only when "Voyager" used the trope?

 

[Oddish]

If you liked it, no judgment.

 

[Finn]

I later figured a specific three digit Tuvok was approaching was some kind of meaningful 100+ number in Vulcan culture, unknown to us, like certain numbers means something, either bad or good in certain cultures here on Earth.

 

[Summer Solstice]

I later figured a specific three digit Tuvok was approaching was some kind of meaningful 100+ number in Vulcan culture, unknown to us, like certain numbers means something, either bad or good in certain cultures here on Earth.

Perhaps Vulcans don't use base 10 arithmetic...

 

[Finn]

Or maybe it's just the age Surak was when he hit it big....a huge deal for Vulcans

 

[The Wormhole]

That usually happened a lot in stories about time travel. What are you talking about? Since when is that a crime? Only when "Voyager" used the trope?

I don't know if it's accurate or not, but there is a perception among fandom that Voyager used the Reset Button the most out of all the Trek shows. Though some of the more prominent examples (like Year of Hell) were because of studio mandates from UPN.

 

[lawman]

Tuvok was born in 2264, on the Vulcanis Lunar Colony, according to Memory Alpha.

He would have been 106 or 107 when Voyager was lost, and 113 or 114 upon its return.

That answers the relevant question.

Where MA came up with that, though, is far from clear. There's no scheme by which SD 38774 (the birthdate Tuvok actually gave in "Unimatrix Zero, Pt II") translates into 2264, or indeed any date in the 23rd century.

Nonetheless, I can't argue with the basic conclusions here. "Flashback" (and ST VI) impose the most specific constraints. I don't hold with the widespread "1000 SD units = 1 calendar year," seeing as how Berman-era Trek (especially VOY!) contradicted it all over the place, indeed pretty much every time it mentioned any real dates. Nonetheless, we know VOY ended in spring of 2278, so depending on when in the year his birthday falls, it's reasonable to infer that he's about 114-115 at that point, and about seven years younger when VOY began.