Incredibly impressive!
The Roddenberry Archive / OTOY
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I have to admit, CGI Arex freaked me out a little bit. But I would pay good money to see a CGI remaster of the animated series if it looked that good. (Apropos of nothing, I’d still rather have DS9 in HD first!)
Neat! I would love to see a live action Arex and M'Ress (and any other alien the show had). I thought eventually TAS would get reanimated, but never considered that anyone would want to turn these episodes into live action!
I somehow missed the link - thanks for pointing it out.
Seeing these images makes me feel like a kid again - wanting to be there and be a part of the fun and seeing it all in person.
This truly looks like a huge-budget expansion of TOS/TMP with a hint of Into Darkness thrown in. Wow, to all involved.
I’m glad they fixed that Cage Enterprise sitting in the SF museum. In some of the early stills, it had the three dark rings around the circumference of the primary hull that should only be on the refit. Looks like they corrected that and removed it from the final render.
It was done with love and knowledge.
“Fact Trekker” indeed. No more hilarious than “Los Angeles Island” from the TMP novel or the altered coastline in the original TMP depiction of San Francisco. All Roddenberry works, which this effort is meant to document.
Much respect to whoever composed that image for their attention to detail. It’s straight out of Roddenberry’s novelization of TMP. He mentions giant redwoods growing in the vicinity of Starfleet.
“Whatever one prefers to call it — Starfleet Command, Fleet Headquarters, or the Admiralty— it is centered in a structure which thrusts itself magnificently spaceward out of the redwood forest of San Francisco's old city peninsula.”
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almost missed this, couldn't get online for a while, was too hot to use a computer.. 
Only possible if you assume some cataclysmic alternation of the coastline that the fragile bridge would somehow survive. I lived right in that area for 13 years. I know that coastline intimately.
The east bay hills were covered with redwoods before settlers whacked them all If that's what the trees are supposed to be that's fine.
I know that coastline as well, and this is not meant to depict that coastline. You are criticizing for being different something that was purposefully made different, to show precisely the cataclysmic changes you are ridiculing, as what - making it impossible to rebuild the bridge? Read the interview with Matthew Yuricich in Cinefex Number 1. The photograph of the coastline was flipped to screw with your senses and give the impression a lot had changed. Is that any more ridiculous than the depiction of the same area in 2050 by the great futurist illustrator Chesley Bonestell?
http://www.fabiofeminofantascience.org/RETROFUTURE/bonestellsanfrancisco.jpg
Such an unnecessarily smug series of criticisms I’m seeing here. Is it weird that I read this in the voice of “Comic Book Guy” from the Simpsons? No, I think not.Only possible if you assume some cataclysmic alternation of the coastline that the fragile bridge would somehow survive. I lived right in that area for 13 years. I know that coastline intimately.
The east bay hills were covered with redwoods before settlers whacked them all If that's what the trees are supposed to be that's fine.
Get over yourself, man, with the pedantic need to “fact check” everyone trying to do something new, cool and innovative, already. Bickering over freakin’ shorelines and pine trees?? Has there ever been an accurate representation of the SF geography depicted since its first appearance in TMP? Does the term “artistic license” hold no agency with you? Such foolishness just sucks all of the joy out of projects like this, for both the people working hard to build something and those of us who are eagerly waiting for the finished product. It just tears everyone down needlessly.
This is probably the most amazing effort ever conceived to bring forward rare aspects of the franchise’s past. These fussy little posts (here an peppered all over the board) are starting to remind me of a certain Star Trek Timeline author who epically flamed-out from the BBS many ages ago because literally everyone got tired of listening to him rant about stupid shit. Y’all know who I’m talking about.
Seriously dude…. Nobody cares. Let these people continue to do this amazing work without the burden of your “expertise”.
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That'll be enough of that, @137th Gebirg. Stick to what people are saying, attack it in a civil manner if you must, but stop framing their character as “pedantic”. You've been longer on the board than I have been, so I doubt this is the first time you've ever been confronted with the concept of “post not poster”. This also ain't the place to air your grievance about other posters not present here.
Sigh - yes, in truth, my comments started out more confined to the original posts in question, but ballooned as I got more and more irate about the topic. It's just so damn infuriating sometimes. Apologies for exceeding the scope of the original premise allowed by board rules.
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What I love about this is it aims to resuscitate a moribund vision of the Star Trek future that gave Roddenberry a higher reason to bring it back first in TMP, then in TNG. He saw a mature humanity that could manage its internal conflicts. That layered vision was substantiated in tons of memos and artistic speculations that never made it to the screen, but that are nonetheless fascinating and certainly all the more apropos for our riven world. Example- In the TMP novelization mentioned above, Roddenberry describes humanity as divided between an interconnected but quiescent “new” faction, and the old, rugged individualists like Kirk. The New Humans don’t do well in space, but the Kirk types do, and thus mankind finds a symbiosis that allows each to be themselves and progress the whole. Somehow this simple vision of how humanity could overcome its divisions got lost over the years among complaints that Roddenberry didn’t want conflict among his characters. No, Roddenberry wanted productive conflict that showed people finding common ground in the end, while still retaining their distinctiveness. And he wanted to portray a world that cultivated - and was cultivated by - that kind of behavior.
Best wishes to Donny and everyone involved on finally giving these ideas the visual forms Roddenberry envisioned so that they might eventually serve as breadcrumbs for future storytellers to follow.
Best wishes to Donny and everyone involved on finally giving these ideas the visual forms Roddenberry envisioned so that they might eventually serve as breadcrumbs for future storytellers to follow.
As I pointed out above, nobody said the bridge hadn’t been rebuilt…
…by the same society building faster than light starships right around the bend.
But let’s take your criticism for what it’s worth and weigh it. That Chesley Bonestell illustration of San Francisco in 2050 was completed just a few years before TMP. It was, for all its dated appearance, au courant. If its additions to the coastline, or something like them, had been washed or blown away, that debris would serve to reshape the coastline. So it isn’t necessary at all to assume some cataclysm that would also destroy the bridge. In fact, throw Bonestell out and just take the Trek portrayal of terraforming technology as it has been depicted. You mean to say that Starfleet can terraform a Genesis planet using a torpedo, but can’t reshape a few miles of Earth coastline? Really?
But frankly, what does it matter what you think- this is meant to document the Roddenberry vision, and HE thought it could.
