The Roddenberry Archive / OTOY

[F. King Daniel]

I think this is what you're looking for:

It's definitely there

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[blssdwlf]

Thanks, I was pretty sure there were 2 doors up there but didn't have access to any images to check! They can also be spotted in certain TNG and VOY episodes, albeit very fleetingly! Sadly I cannot share any such examples, but I do have the VOY engine room setplan of the upper level and those 2 doors are clearly present:


Unfortunately, this doesn't help with the TWOK situation as Kirk runs in from the opposite side of the room from the 2 doors.

Yeah that is tricky to work out. A couple of possibilities...

As far as I know the starboard wall of the upper engineering was never shown on screen so you could imagine a door being there?

Or Kirk entered in from one of the aft entrances flanking the octagon on the upper level (visible in TMP) and ran over to the forward starboard-side where the cadets had gathered looking over the rail to see what was happening at the lower level. When he sees McCoy and Scotty by the dilithium room he then bumps the cadets out of the way to get to the aft starboard ladder to make his way down which is quicker than the 2 elevators. YMMV

 

[Mytran]

Yeah that is tricky to work out. A couple of possibilities...

As far as I know the starboard wall of the upper engineering was never shown on screen so you could imagine a door being there?

Or Kirk entered in from one of the aft entrances flanking the octagon on the upper level (visible in TMP) and ran over to the forward starboard-side where the cadets had gathered looking over the rail to see what was happening at the lower level. When he sees McCoy and Scotty by the dilithium room he then bumps the cadets out of the way to get to the aft starboard ladder to make his way down which is quicker than the 2 elevators. YMMV

Although my explanation upthread for Kirk's movements was pretty janky, I generally prefer simpler explanations wherever possible!
Can I have the unseen door please?

Come to think of it, was that wall EVER seen?
TNG reused that upper level with minimal changes, there's at least a small chance it snuck into shot at one point or other...

 

[Tomalak]

Speaking of which, I’m surprised you can’t get to the upper level of the TNG engineering set in OTOY yet. That lift is so tempting!