I'll take your word for it.
"Such men dare take what they want..."--Khan: Sexy or creepy?
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Or the Founding Fathers. That said, we don't even need to name deceased men; there are folks who worshiped (and still worship) the former POTUS despite the fact that he's still alive and his myriad flaws are still very much on display.
Sergi López's character from "Pan's Labyrinth" was similarly compelling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergi_López_(actor)
People find competence compelling---same thing with Dukat--though Khan would have found even him oily.
Hopefully not so much that you'd betray 429 of your shipmates!
My Halloween name this year!
Not unless you want me to subject The Nameless Zoo to my Groot impersonation again.
Ugh.
I will contest that based on the topless scenes in Patterns of Force...
Furry Spock?
Well, I hate to objectify anyone, especially as I am strongly opposed to "Babe" threads and so forth, but...
Yes. Yes. Furry Spock.
TV actors take off shirts, film at 11.
Yeah, I just never have understood romantic and sexual fantasies about any of the major Trek casts. There's just something anodyne about the lot of then. It may be that they're usually cast in search of some mannered and formal vibes...
...Now, a couple of SNW actors may be the exceptions. And probably because the writers shucked that folded-arms, declaratory posturing, and the producers cast to that.
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You might not understand but there are hundreds of thousands pieces of fan fiction that can't be wrong.
Like I wonder around the fans of Riker, sure he's handsome powerful, and the actor is great but Riker's so bland and self-righteous. Well better than Khan I suppose.
Creepy, definitely creepy. I can't stand Khan, and I hate the effect he has on McGivers. But then, I've never found bad boys/men sexy, because I've never bought into that common female fallacy that a bad guy only needs the love of a good woman to turn a new leaf in his life. Give me bland and self-righteous any day (I've had a crush on Riker since I first saw TNG in my late teens).
Agree that Montalban was magnetic generally and as Khan. McCoy even says as much. In fact, Montalban's incredibly charismatic rendering of the role is the only reason this debate is even a thing and one of several reasons why Space Seed works when it should not (in about five different ways, but that's another thread). Most actors would have blown the readings or the physicality somehow and the creepiness would have had no veneer whatsoever. (I'm not saying it SHOULD have worked on McGivers. I'm saying that Montalban managed to sell the idea as at least plausible.)
Hard disagree on the rest. I find each of the seven most principal cast members to be highly charismatic. Hell, I can even make a case for Chapel.
I assume you're joking. Someone can't be "wrong" about who they find attractive.
As for "hundreds of thousands of pieces of fan fiction?" Rule 34 - there's scads of porn online featuring Marge Simpson and Chief Wiggums and all the rest of the Simpsons menagerie. So what?
I usually am.
I think his point is that K/S literally started a genre. It is the ship that launched a thousand ships.
But if the characters don't work for you, well, that's valid too. You did say "I don't understand" not "other folks shouldn't..." and that's perfectly fine.
