News 'Sandman' TV Series a Go at Netflix
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We've known for awhile that the first season is ten episodes.
Interesting, I didn't know Johanna Constantine was an existing character from the lore, and not just a gender swap.
A new featurette:
Includes some new footage of Gregory, Matthew, Roderick Burgess, and The Corinthian (the latter two interacting, which doesn't happen in the comics but is an understandable divergence), plus our first glimpses of Despair, Barbie, and Martin Tenbones!
Includes some new footage of Gregory, Matthew, Roderick Burgess, and The Corinthian (the latter two interacting, which doesn't happen in the comics but is an understandable divergence), plus our first glimpses of Despair, Barbie, and Martin Tenbones!
Just found and watched the Comic-Con panel and it's an absolute delight to watch:
And of course as it's Netflix it's dropping all at once, on the plus side at least it's unlikely that I need to be bothered by spoilers so that's something!
Well, I think I've watched enough now to say that maybe it was better if this remained as the great white whale of comic adaptations. Or they should had done it as an animated series where they could have no limitations in scope.
I think this moment sums up the gulf between versions perfectly for me.
I think this moment sums up the gulf between versions perfectly for me.
To me they look like the same thing, depicted in two different mediums?
I think the comic and the show should stand as their own thing. This is Gaiman coming back to his own work with 30 years hindsight and telling the same stories in a different way. I don't see how one negates the other.
I'll be giving this a spin tomorrow. Really looking forward to it. Reviews some promising as well. I'd hate them to mess it up, but I at least trust that's not going to happen with Gaiman onboard. Who better to be onboard? If this was Zack Snyder or whatever making choices that went contrary to the comic I'd be pissed, but it's not. It's an author coming back to his own work with three decades of extra wisdom. It just legitimises the whole project for me.
Very excited. Read Sandman at some point in the late 90s, only the once, but there are scenes, images and characters that have always lived with me since.
My one niggle before watching is Dream should absolutely have black eyes. As in eyeballs that are completely black, rather than bruising from fighting.
I think the comic and the show should stand as their own thing. This is Gaiman coming back to his own work with 30 years hindsight and telling the same stories in a different way. I don't see how one negates the other.
I'll be giving this a spin tomorrow. Really looking forward to it. Reviews some promising as well. I'd hate them to mess it up, but I at least trust that's not going to happen with Gaiman onboard. Who better to be onboard? If this was Zack Snyder or whatever making choices that went contrary to the comic I'd be pissed, but it's not. It's an author coming back to his own work with three decades of extra wisdom. It just legitimises the whole project for me.
Very excited. Read Sandman at some point in the late 90s, only the once, but there are scenes, images and characters that have always lived with me since.
My one niggle before watching is Dream should absolutely have black eyes. As in eyeballs that are completely black, rather than bruising from fighting.
One's imposing, the other's a dude with another dude green screened on his hand.
Despite a 135m budget the whole series looks pretty cheap; bad CGI, really bad green screening. That's why I think it would have been much better as an animated series.
*shrug* I think as I said, they look like the same thing in different mediums. Plus, in comics we are looking at images and words and that's the extent of it, while looking at stills from a TV show doesn't convert everything a TV show does. I need to see it moving with music and acting.
What I've seen so far looks alright, but I've only seen trailers. I'll give it a watch tomorrow as I say, but I feel optimistic.
What I've seen so far looks alright, but I've only seen trailers. I'll give it a watch tomorrow as I say, but I feel optimistic.
I think I read somewhere that they tried to do the black eyes at one point, but it just really didn't work in live action.
Oh, I didn't notice any so far. I was just going by what I remember reading.
Watched episode 3.
I can see where Joanna Constantine wasn't quite as rough as John is usually portrayed, but I still liked the character and Jenna Coleman's performance. So does the whole backstory with Astra come from the comics? I had assumed that was something they made up for the other shows.
I liked the introduction of Matthew.
I'm curious if there's anything more to The Corintian giving John his jacket, than just him giving him his jacket. He doesn't strike as the type to just do something like that without there being more to it.
Watched episode 3.
I can see where Joanna Constantine wasn't quite as rough as John is usually portrayed, but I still liked the character and Jenna Coleman's performance. So does the whole backstory with Astra come from the comics? I had assumed that was something they made up for the other shows.
I liked the introduction of Matthew.
I'm curious if there's anything more to The Corintian giving John his jacket, than just him giving him his jacket. He doesn't strike as the type to just do something like that without there being more to it.
I've watched the first six. I was very mixed based on the first four. Episode one was decent, though I really think a lot was lost by leaving out Roderick's fate (I know Gaiman says they tried to include and it didn't work but...find a way to make it work?) Episode two felt too short but the changes to story with Gregory worked really well. Episode 3 was the definite lowpoint. I like Jenna Coleman but the whole thing just felt too clean. A Constantine story should be gritty! Some pretty bad green-screening too. Changing Rachel's fate made the whole thing feel completely toothless and anti-climatic. Episode 4 was a little better: I'm pleased they included Nada, Christie was good as Lucifer; but I was very unimpressed by the visuals. Hell just didn't feel weird or big enough. It probably doesn't help that panels from the comic are burned into my brain.
HOWEVER, episodes 5 and 6 were both very good, if not great! Probably done about as well as a tv adaptation of those stories could be. I was also happy that 24/7 wasn't really toned down at all from the comic version, which makes me wonder why the earlier episodes felt so soft. The Hob Gadling issue was possibly my favourite single issue from the comic and they really nailed it. Kirby Howell-Baptiste was a great Death. So yeah, I'm more optimistic going into the last four which hopefully keep up the quality of 5 and 6...
HOWEVER, episodes 5 and 6 were both very good, if not great! Probably done about as well as a tv adaptation of those stories could be. I was also happy that 24/7 wasn't really toned down at all from the comic version, which makes me wonder why the earlier episodes felt so soft. The Hob Gadling issue was possibly my favourite single issue from the comic and they really nailed it. Kirby Howell-Baptiste was a great Death. So yeah, I'm more optimistic going into the last four which hopefully keep up the quality of 5 and 6...
I miss Matt Ryan and Tom Ellis.. Owell.
