He was so good at making horrible movies get wide releases. Nobody on his level.
DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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At least you could choose to see them or not. Batgirl? Not so lucky.
They took over another player's hand in a game of poker, didn't like the hand and decided not to throw anymore chips into the pot. Unfortunate but seems like a new aggressive policy shift. I doubt Blue Beetle will come out either....
The only positive in this is that not doing Batgirl might mean a Batman/woman Beyond movie instead since they won't have used the Keaton Batman as mentor idea.
We will probably know more tomorrow when WB/Discovery presents their quarterly report. It looks bad for HBOMax.
I actually think it would have been cool to get him back as an 'active Batman' to then see him retire due to his heart and then get him as the Batman Beyond mentor-Bruce. I always thought Keaton was a better Bruce Wayne than Batman.
James Gunn was insisting "Peacemaker" wasn't going to be cancelled last night. I wonder if he's still so sure today? Even if it's not I can't imagine any of the other "Suicide Squad" spinoffs happening. So no Peter Capaldi "Thinker" show sadly.
Yeah, I don't think anyone really wanted him as the main Batman for the universe, but he could have named a successor.
Suicide Squad spinoffs were a weird idea anyway as the movie severely underperformed. And I think for Peacemaker to survive, it will have to be picked up by mainline HBO. It wouldn't really fit their content perfectly, though its not impossible.
And nobody forced them to write it off on their taxes. That's the point. They chose to do that. If they had chosen to release the film instead of cancelling it, they could monetize it all they wanted. So you're arguing backwards by claiming that the result of their decision to cancel the film somehow caused their decision to cancel the film. It makes about as much sense as the joke about the guy who murdered his parents asking for leniency because he's an orphan.
Merely pointing it out is meaningless, though. I know it's their strategy, because I can read. The discussion has already gone well beyond that. Discussing things is not merely about stating what they are, it's about evaluating what they mean and what we think and feel about them.
I figure it's a Batman Beyond sort of thing where he's grizzled old Bruce mentoring the younger hero(es).
You know, there are so many threads where this happens. Someone posts something, and you come in arguing something completely different than what was being discussed.
My reply was directly to to a user who said that he hoped a #SaveBatgirl campaign could make Discovery change their mind. I quoted the user in my reply. I was speaking to them, and their comment.
Yes they chose to write it off their taxes. Once that that is the path that has been taken they can't unchose that path based on tweets because doing so would be a violation of tax law. So yes, while they chose to take that path the law prevents them from changing their mind once the paperwork is filed. The twitter campaign proposed by the user I quoted and was responding too is thus not likely to convince the execs to violate tax law.
As for the rest, you directly quoted me. I didn't say anything about it being a good idea. In fact, I think it's a terrible idea and that the blockbusterization of Hollywood in general the last 20 years has been a disaster and yearn for the days of mid budget films being made again. I actually agree with you. But I wasn't discussing the strategies viability with people. I was, again, responding to the person I quoted about how their idea of a Twitter campaign was unlikely to work in the face of tax law and Discovery's longterm strategy.
This is for the people who foolishly believed the execs when they said they are just cutting Batgirl and Scoob:
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1554898759196315648
Sadly, HBO Max is a goner. The new best case scenario is that traditional HBO gets to keep the same budget they had before the HBO Max move and operate entirely independently as they used to.
What does it mean for DC shows from the CW and DC Universe? I think they're all done for. HBO won't pick them up, except for maybe the most prestigious like Watchmen.
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1554898759196315648
Sadly, HBO Max is a goner. The new best case scenario is that traditional HBO gets to keep the same budget they had before the HBO Max move and operate entirely independently as they used to.
What does it mean for DC shows from the CW and DC Universe? I think they're all done for. HBO won't pick them up, except for maybe the most prestigious like Watchmen.
As a reminder, CW isn't owned by Discovery. It was sold off to Nexstar. Discovery retains only a small percentage of ownership. Discovery doesn't control their programming. Nexstars CW cancellations are their own responsibility, although I'm sure not owning the rights to the DC characters plays into it.
Part of the sale is that they need to show some number of Viacom and WB shows... I guess they don't want to use their WB quota on superheroes any more.
I think they are keeping Superman, no?
For at least 1 more season... its their second highest rated show in the demo.
Which came out before HBOMax. I'm not surprised that HBOMax looks like it is going under--too much competition in subscription streaming services these days. I would guess the market is over saturated and we'll be seeing other services ending over the next while.
Yeah but its sad that Max is the one to go down - its the best of the bunch, and has one of the highest number of subscribers...