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I mean, the original Blade film was all about vampires hiding in and amongst humans with a secret society type of an atmosphere. So, if they appear then it will be that they were hiding in plain sight, which is pretty stand vampire lore.
Yeah, and it's nothing the MCU hasn't done before. I mean, we didn't know magic was real in the MCU until Doctor Strange. We didn't know about Wakanda until Civil War and Black Panther. We didn't know until a couple of years ago that the Eternals had been on Earth throughout human history. And we didn't know until Moon Knight that real Egyptian gods were a thing. So revealing that vampires have been secretly around all along is no different.
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The Wakanda Forever trailer was really cool, it was nice to finally get official confirmation of Namor & Atlantis. I love the whole Aztec/South American look they're using for Atlantis, that's a nice way to make it feel unique and stand out from most other versions of Atlantis.
Didn't I hear that they're going to call it something from South American mythology rather than Atlantis, to distinguish it from Aquaman?
It’s not that Blade can’t be done but I’m unsure how well it works within the context of the MCU. Blade seems more of an outlier at first blush, I'm not sure how well he would contribute to being part of a Phase 5. There's a lot to track now and throwing vampires in there might be extra bloat.
Mind you I like Blade and was especially a fan of the first movie but he ended up treated as a joke in his own franchise with Blade Trinity with Ryan Reynold's Hannibal King. I just question whether the MCU has room to do him justice.
We passed bloated a while back. It's not like vampires are some weird made up alien race. It's among the most well known monsters. The groundwork is already laid.
Yeah, and the aliens and cosmic stuff isn't the only thing being built up, either. Blade comes in alongside the rise of magic (WandaVision, Agatha Harkness) gods (Love and Thunder, Moon Knight) and general supernatural stuff (Werewolf by Night, Black Knight). He's not going to be the only creepy crawly franchise in the MCU.
The thing that surprises me about the Phase 5/6 announcements is that there's no X-Men project other than the animated revival. I'd expected the recent hints in Multiverse of Madness and Ms. Marvel to be laying the groundwork for upcoming mutant stuff, but now it seems that we won't be getting any of that in the MCU until at least 2025, assuming that Phase 6 has been only partially announced.
There's no reason Blade has to interact closely with the rest of the MCU. There are various parts of it that stand pretty much apart from the rest, like Moon Knight. Or cases where some parts connect but others don't, like how WandaVision set up Multiverse of Madness and Falcon/Winter Soldier set up Cap 4, but the two series don't reference each other at all and don't even feel like they occupy the same world.
The point of a large franchise like the MCU is not to be a single homogeneous mass, but to offer a range of different options for different audiences. Depending on your preferences, you can watch everything or just the parts you're interested in. The interconnections should ideally be optional, a bonus for people who watch everything without being a distraction for those who don't.
I expect that Blade will link to some parts of it but not to others. We already got a hint of Blade in the post-credit scene of The Eternals, and he might connect to other supernatural parts of the MCU like Doctor Strange or Moon Knight, but I expect he'd remain separate from the grounded political-thriller stuff like Captain America or the cosmic stuff like The Marvels. They might eventually bring him into the "Phase 6" Avengers movies, but by then they would've established him and his world enough that it wouldn't feel any stranger than putting Captain America and Thor in the same movie.
There's no reason Blade has to interact closely with the rest of the MCU. There are various parts of it that stand pretty much apart from the rest, like Moon Knight. Or cases where some parts connect but others don't, like how WandaVision set up Multiverse of Madness and Falcon/Winter Soldier set up Cap 4, but the two series don't reference each other at all and don't even feel like they occupy the same world.
The point of a large franchise like the MCU is not to be a single homogeneous mass, but to offer a range of different options for different audiences. Depending on your preferences, you can watch everything or just the parts you're interested in. The interconnections should ideally be optional, a bonus for people who watch everything without being a distraction for those who don't.
I expect that Blade will link to some parts of it but not to others. We already got a hint of Blade in the post-credit scene of The Eternals, and he might connect to other supernatural parts of the MCU like Doctor Strange or Moon Knight, but I expect he'd remain separate from the grounded political-thriller stuff like Captain America or the cosmic stuff like The Marvels. They might eventually bring him into the "Phase 6" Avengers movies, but by then they would've established him and his world enough that it wouldn't feel any stranger than putting Captain America and Thor in the same movie.
Indeed. The idea that vampires can't work misses what I think is Marvel's strong point of a buffet of stories that I can pick and chose from.
People complaining about Blade suddenly existing as a vampirehunter in a world where vampires never 'existed' untill now, a world where in it's over a decade run we were introduced to magic always being there, the multiverse always being there and aliens always being there.....
are idiots. Fucking ban me if you need to, but these stupid idiots are beyond me.
are idiots. Fucking ban me if you need to, but these stupid idiots are beyond me.
I never said it can't work, I was just saying at first blush Blade seems an outlier from the rest of the Phase. It's just not immediately obvious to me how he will blend in. While the MCU might not be one homogeneous mass I think at least part of the point of the MCU is there are some connections between the pieces to bring audiences into parts they might not otherwise be interested in. I doubt I would've ever watched The Eternals all the way through if it wasn't part of the MCU.
Yes, that's correct. Also, it's specifically a Mayan background and not Aztec.
It's literally the Multiverse Saga phase. For all we know it's a different universe.
I know I sound like a jack-ass, but how about instead of forming thought and opinions on something that literally doesn't exist yet.... we wait untill AFTER the movie, and than have a frame of reference?
I know the internet doesn't work like this, and we're supposed to be opinionated but maybe we could just be reasonable adults for a change?
Fuck, I'm not trying to piss anyone off, if you were hanging with some friends and talking about Marvel and someone said "I can't see how Blade is going to fit into all this." that you would be upset? Thought we were all just chatting here, isn't this the speculation thread?
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And that's fair. I think the difference between the Eternals and Blade is that one is very grounded in human storytelling so I think it can connect with less work than Dr. Strange.
I can recall the 90s Spiderman cartoon Blade stood out a but, as a little unusual. The show didn't do much with it, but it served as a very simple clue to another unseen world.
I guess I don't struggle because things like the Netflix shows talked all about "the war " between the Chaste and the Hand. Now, I'm no comic buff, and care little for the vast history some might know, so this whole war thing was quite off-putting. Yet I still found it working, even I'm a smaller way.
So, Blade might be much the same. Odd but intriguing.
The Black Panther trailer was good, although hopefully it ends with Shuri following T'Challa to the place with the tree and fancy mood lighting from the first film 
(I mean, if half the things we heard about Wright on set were accurate, i can't imagine they want to keep her around). Namor looks cool, I like the twist they've done with his style (it makes sense to make him even less like the other Aquatic hero). It looks like T'Challa's mother might be going evil (or at least making bad choices) based on the trailer, so maybe in this film Wakanda is the agressor against Namor's people for some reason, although I guess thats pretty unlikely.
As for all the Blade talk, he fits perfectly fine in the MCU. Magic is established as having always been there, why would vampires be different? Maybe the Ancient One/Sorcerer Supreme used to keep the vampires in general in check, but after all the death and the blip they're making more obvious moves so Blade goes from a secret vampire hunter to having to operate slightly more known to at least the world's super types. Or the vampires are just sneaky and they've mostly kept themselves hidden on purpose, like in the old Blade movies. I literally see no reason that Blade doesn't fit into the MCU perfectly, even just using pre-established MCU lore or vampire lore in general.
(I mean, if half the things we heard about Wright on set were accurate, i can't imagine they want to keep her around). Namor looks cool, I like the twist they've done with his style (it makes sense to make him even less like the other Aquatic hero). It looks like T'Challa's mother might be going evil (or at least making bad choices) based on the trailer, so maybe in this film Wakanda is the agressor against Namor's people for some reason, although I guess thats pretty unlikely.As for all the Blade talk, he fits perfectly fine in the MCU. Magic is established as having always been there, why would vampires be different? Maybe the Ancient One/Sorcerer Supreme used to keep the vampires in general in check, but after all the death and the blip they're making more obvious moves so Blade goes from a secret vampire hunter to having to operate slightly more known to at least the world's super types. Or the vampires are just sneaky and they've mostly kept themselves hidden on purpose, like in the old Blade movies. I literally see no reason that Blade doesn't fit into the MCU perfectly, even just using pre-established MCU lore or vampire lore in general.
But there are already connective parts being set up for Blade, anyway. His voice was in the Eternals' post credit scene because he has a history with the Black Knight.