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Spoilers The Gorn should sue this show
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There is a difference: it's twenty times more enjoyable than Alien ever was first me. I didn't like it but prefer this to the horror masquerading as science fiction ugly franchise known as Alien.
While ALIEN definitely is in the science fiction realm, it's much more like a horror film. (Which I really, really love... ALIEN really captures a claustrophobic feeling while watching.) ALIENS is more a scifi action film, which I also love. That franchise starts to fall apart afterward.
I see nothing wrong with using a well done trope, as long as it entertains. Personally, I liked the Gorn here. Nothing says there can't be multiple kinds of Gorn. As proof, look at the Xindi.
I see nothing wrong with using a well done trope, as long as it entertains. Personally, I liked the Gorn here. Nothing says there can't be multiple kinds of Gorn. As proof, look at the Xindi.
Exactly. I see no reason to treat the Gorn as any different with having multiple species under their hegemony.
Yep, the producers of Alien had to settle a lawsuit regarding ripping off a book called "The Voyage of the Space Beagle" that was published in the 50s.
Well played.
One of the thrilling things about encountering this new TV series Star Trek when I was in my early teens was that it was like watching the sf stories of the 40s and 50s that I was reading voraciously.
Captain Merrick had a bust of Porthos on his ship.
I’ve always thought it’d be great to have a proper Gorn with modern special effects, but I don’t think a mash up of a Xenomorph and the Brood is a proper Gorn. This is probably the series one big stumble.
Curious. What makes a proper Gorn?
Slow-moving bipeds with bubble wrap eyes that conform to human mental processes and life cycles. Clearly.
Clearly with no variation.
I had my druthers, I would’ve made them basically organic terminators, with elements of the raptors in JP: Nigh-unstoppable, relentless, and cold blooded. What was campy slow walking in the original due to the special effects budget would be a methodic and deliberate plodding, again, similar to how a terminator moves. ( Which ties into the idea they like to exhaust their prey). Very literal or even logical in their thought processes. That’s why they immediately assume the colonists were invaders.
And their luring more victims?
If they sussed out a reason, sure.
So, instead of defending their territory and sending a signal to stay out they mimicked a Starfleet officer to bring a whole ship in to their territory?
What the Gorn did in "ARENA", faking the signal and luring the crew down, is not dissimilar to a hunter trying to trap their prey. Which is very much what the Gorn do here.
The fact they are shown, physically, different in SNW can be attributed to many things.
1. Another race because it's a 'Hegemony', perhaps even a Federation of reptilian species.
2. Another type of the same species, like how there were 6 kinds of Xindi.
3. Their version of ethnicities.
4. Genetically modified versions of the Gorn.
5. The Gorn we saw were children, and they may get slower as they age. Not dissimilar to humans in that regard.
And who knows what other possibilities. I see nothing that contradicts the TOS episode.
The fact they are shown, physically, different in SNW can be attributed to many things.
1. Another race because it's a 'Hegemony', perhaps even a Federation of reptilian species.
2. Another type of the same species, like how there were 6 kinds of Xindi.
3. Their version of ethnicities.
4. Genetically modified versions of the Gorn.
5. The Gorn we saw were children, and they may get slower as they age. Not dissimilar to humans in that regard.
And who knows what other possibilities. I see nothing that contradicts the TOS episode.
Klingons also ate humans, yet became allies later.
I treat SNW as a reboot so not fussed with it not syncing up with "Arena" so much. I'm liking it for what it is.
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