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Janeway and Chakotay

Well, until "Star Trek First Contact", no one went to the bathroom at all. It was never mentioned, and you never saw a toilet. Has there ever been a toilet on Star Trek?
 
TFF. In the brig.

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Well, until "Star Trek First Contact", no one went to the bathroom at all. It was never mentioned, and you never saw a toilet. Has there ever been a toilet on Star Trek?
I’m sure that there is a toilet in a blueprint of the bridge in the TNG technical manual. I keep the manual I have at work though, so will check tomorrow for you. It might also be in my Star Trek Fact files, but that is a major task to search through so I will only do that if I fail to find the toilet in the tech manual.
 
The original deck plans (which I had but were stolen from me) had toilets everywhere, including one right off the bridge.

TV in the 60's never showed bathrooms - it became a running joke with the Brady Bunch, because I believe that was the first popular show to show the bathroom - shared by both kid's bedrooms - and yet, NO TOILET. This is even called out in the Brady Bunch movie ("Those people are weird... they have no toilets!"). For some reason, having main characters stop to go becomes humorous, and breaks any tension in the show, so they just hand-wave it. On the other hand, we did get to see T'Pol shower a lot...
 
I think Brady Bunch did break ground in another way... it had one bed in the parents' bedroom.
 
I think Brady Bunch did break ground in another way... it had one bed in the parents' bedroom.
That was actually first broken in The Munsters, still in B&W, and the censors only allowed it because "they weren't human".
Going to the toilet became a running gag in All in the Family, but I don't think we ever saw the bathroom, at least not until later seasons... we never saw 'upstairs', and thats where the one bathroom was. We just heard them flushing it... real loud. Planes dump their toilet-matter just before they get to their next stop, preferrably (but not always!) over water. Its called 'blue ice', IIRC. Pretty gross. But spaceships must do the same thing, which means the space around starbases and stuff must be like a minefield. Can you imagine the Klingons show up to attack Earth, and their view-screens got 'blacked out' by some unknown goo they ran into? LOL
 
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But spaceships must do the same thing, which means the space around starbases and stuff must be like a minefield.
Apparently not.
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^That was the 22nd century. Apparently humans of that century weren't quite that evolved yet and still needed toilets.... unlike those of the 24th century.
 
Happens on Earth, too. Much of the organic matter we eat probably was part of the shit or remains of previous generations of humans and animals - many times over. The only real differences being that on starships this process is engineered and the recycling period is much shorter.
 
In "Shattered", Chakotay breaks every JC shippers heart when he tells past Janeway there was a line they "never crossed" or something to that effect.

Just discovered this episode lately while sifting through the Seventh Season on CD's I bought some time ago and have been rewatching it quite a bit. Loved the story line and the interaction between Janeway and Chakotay as they navigated timelines with Janeway discovering to her astonishment/surprise and dismay in other instances (being stranded in the Delta Quadrant, Tuvok's death, etc.) the past/future events occurring in the Delta Quadrant and the characters she encounters she hasn't any idea of, including the fact that she and Chakotay would eventually come together as part of her crew, Chakotay, her lst officer. Every temporal segment as it unfolded was interesting, save for the out-of-place "Captain Proton" nonsense, which I couldn't stand even in other episodes.

After Chakotay inoculated Janeway so that he could take her through the different timelines on the ship as he needed assistance to bring the ship into temporal alignment, that interaction was very intimate with him holding her and speaking to her within inches of her face. They looked physically compatible together in that scene and it suggested intimacy to me via such. Yet, it was too early in the episode to even hint at an intimate relationship for Janeway only saw Chakotay as a Maquis terrorist to be arrested and brought to justice. Yet, as the episode unfolded Janeway softened her attitude towards him and one could see that she began to appreciate him in other ways to the point that towards the end of the episode after they had hatched a plan with Seven's help to bring the ship into temporal alignment, including learning that that angry woman, B'Elanna Torres, becomes her chief engineer and eventually marries Tom Paris, an ex con who becomes her navigator and assistant medic, an ex Borg drone becomes a member of her crew as well as the terrorist group the Maquis, Janeway becomes curious as to whether she and Chakotay have something between them other than he being her lst Officer. Love this scene and I thought was brilliantly acted by Kate Mulgrew. After she instructs the other members of the crew about the plan to return the ship to temporal alignment and sends them back to their respective parts of the ship in their temporal time line, she begins walking slowly towards the warp core with Chakotay, head down and rubbing her hands together, clearly uncomfortable with the question she's about to ask. Stopping before the warp core and standing very close to him she looks up at him and asks whether they have something together in the future with "a look of expectation that his response would be an affirmation". However, he responds, as you note, that they never crossed that line, which Janeway reacted with disappointment, but quickly asserted their professional relationship as captain and lst officer with a handshake. However, one can see by Janeway's body language and facial expression, she was hoping that the opposite was true. Outside of the episode Resolutions, that's the closest they ever came towards intimacy and why not from Janeway's perspective as Chakotay was a nice-looking guy and they evolved and bonded well as the episode unfolded.

Relationships in Star Trek.....didn't think Kira and Odo of DS9 were a couple at all, for Odo appeared more like her father than companion, nor Dax and Worf, nor Tom Paris and B'Elanna. Terry Farrell's Dax with Bashir would have been a better couple, as Bashir was after her from the opening of the series, interacted well with each other during the course of such and was admitted to by the 2nd Dax, Ezri (Nicole de Boer), in the seventh season, that he was the one, tho' they didn't mesh well, for it appeared that Bashir and Ezri were more like brother and sister than companions, as Bashir didn't react the same way towards her as he did affectionately towards Terry Farrell's Dax. Paris was forever admonishing B' about being harsh and hard to get along with. However, she was practically personable and friendly with Garrett Wang every time they had a scene together. They were the two that essentially broke the ice between the Starfleet crew and the Maquis in the opening two-parter and subsequent episodes in the lst and 2nd seasons. It could have naturally led to something but the writers saw not to develop such. Lastly, I thought Kira and DeMarr could've been something, tho' Kira hated the Cardassians due to the occupation, but both later became resisters after DeMarr's wife and kid were dismissed by the Founders/Dominion.
 
I think they were referring to that whole bit where Janeway went after that other Federation ship, because she was coming extremely close to crossing that line (which Chakotay reminded her, of, at least twice). It has more to do with acting like civilized Federation personal.

But since I am doing a complete rewatch of Voyager right now, I see more than ever how they were definitely being pushed-together in the beginning. She even calls their little 'spirit guide' thingy "a date". And Chokotay comments on her legs in the episode where they go back in time to earth 1996. They were VERY flirtatious in the beginning.

As for toilets, lets go the same route as J.K. Rawlings did in HP - they just go in their pants and everything is 'magicked away' (and yes, she really did say that). They just use the transporters to whisk it all away, and then use the same transporter to go to an 'earlier transporter file' to replace your ruined underwear. Done & done (literally). I mean, when you only have one bridge crew working 24/7, who has time to go poop? :p
 
Happy Birthday. Captain Janeway.
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Wonder if Nicole Janeway and Chakotay would have hit it off?
 
I think Captain Nicole Janeway was a JAG officer. She just seems the type. She'd probably send Chakotay off to a vacati... I mean prison term in lovely New Zealand.
 
Why is it that no one wonders why Picard and Dr. Crusher never became romantically involved, considering it had been established that they were attracted to each other?
 
Why is it that no one wonders why Picard and Dr. Crusher never became romantically involved, considering it had been established that they were attracted to each other?
Because it isn't interesting, at least to me. Picard in romance was among some of the lesser outings of TNG. At least VOY had Tom and B'Elanna.
I think Captain Nicole Janeway was a JAG officer. She just seems the type. She'd probably send Chakotay off to a vacati... I mean prison term in lovely New Zealand.
Need more JAG Stafleet officers.
 
Happy Birthday. Captain Janeway.
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Wonder if Nicole Janeway and Chakotay would have hit it off?
I really loved her interpretation of that character; she appeared to be a character who I would root for and every obstacle she faced and defeated I would cheer for her. A Captain I could admire being the first woman Captain who earned her stature making mistakes and overcoming them; become a badass CO as the seasons progressed instead on DAY 1. Like the GOAT Kathryn Janeway.
 
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