I like dill pickles, which are as relevant to a discussion of Trek canon as STC is.
SNW truly respects TOS continuity!
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I like dill pickles, which are as relevant to a discussion of Trek canon as STC is.
None of the Kelvin movies made any sense…
On the whole, though, they were pretty fun. 1 and 3, in particular.
It truly is a rabbit's hole - "Amok Time" makes no sense...None of the Kelvin movies made any sense…
On the whole, though, they were pretty fun. 1 and 3, in particular.
It truly is a rabbit's hole - "Amok Time" makes no sense...
Yeah we may not want to pull too hard on that thread…
If there is anyone who demonstrated a clear lack of Cannon when they took over the franchise it was Rick Berman and Brannon Braga. I'm like the people who were running the franchise today, they were not fans and never even watched TOS until very late in their stewardship of the franchise. ( and in fact were encouraged to not ever watched TOS by Gene Roddenberry himself.)
Great.
Canon is not about feel. Otherwise, well, people know how I feel about TMP and TWOK.
If canon were about me liking something dozens of episodes and perhaps two films would be wiped from the canon. Thankfully I don't make that decision, the studio does. As they should.
There is no disagreement here. You're just plain and simply incorrect.
Even Roddenberry didn't have that power really. He declared TAS non-canon and said as much about Star Trek 5 to the point TAS isn't in the 1990s Trek Encyclopedia and his opinion of 5's apocryphal status is mentioned. But now that he's gone, TAS and 5 are fully on Trek's official website database as canon.
Exactly. Canon is a decision by those who are in charge. Now Alex Kurtzman runs the show. He’s decided that anything onscreen, live action or animated is canon. But I feel like we’re just going in circles at this point.
Sorry I'm going to have to point out that I think Kurtzman's stance is that any words seen on screen or dialogue is canon. Because obviously with Robert April or Kyle... Basically, since no dialogue or words were ever mentioned about their race, that's open to change, whatever was onscreen aside.
We just watched that the other night, because my wife had no memory of it, and I wanted her to understand all the Pike stuff from SNW.
It is really….weird.
We don’t know if it’s the same Kyle. There’s more than one family in the world named Kyle. My level of care on the discrepancy of April’s skin color is so low it’s not even funny.
Cobbled together so they could use the original pilot to get ahead on the production schedule, IIRC. The framing device doesn't stand up to close scrutiny.
Canon should be put to the vote, that should solve everything? I mean future canon in future series as you can’t re-write Trek history of course even if the damage has already been done on screen, though TPTB can probably get away with multiversing canon when the need arises or use a bit of creative ‘temporal sidetracking’ via various anomalies, maybe even Temporal Cold War related. There are probably too few people who make decisions on the important plot points like this when it should go with a larger majority vote with an overwhelming consensus. Small or debatable majorities cause arguments and fragmentation amongst the fanbase, it would definitely have to be an overwhelming majority vote to warrant a major change or controversial plot point that a writer might come up with. It’s a bit like the debate around Peter Cushing Doctor Who and *real* Doctor Who isn’t it really! 
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