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Game The Most Disliked Season Finale Antagonist

I feel like I'm scraping the barrel somewhat here, but The Skorr - or certainly the one from TAS S1, "The Jihad" - is a very nice change from many, many of Trek's humanoid aliens. Plus, they featured in Lower Decks! Unless those were Aurelians? Anyway, that particular Skorr is the only antagonist left that I actually like.

Backwards Time Universe (TAS S2, "The Counter-Clock Incident")
Predatory Vines of Surata IV (TNG S2, "Shades Of Grey")
Crosis (TNG S6, "Descent")
Silik (ENT S1, "Shockwave")
Future Guy (ENT S1, "Shockwave")
Duras (ENT S2, "The Expanse")
Sphere Builder Primary, Sphere Builder Presage, & Sphere Builder Woman (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Na'kuhl Nazi (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Admiral Pressman (ENT S4, "These Are The Voyages...")
The Klingon War (DIS S1, "Will You Take My Hand?")
Control (DIS S2, "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2")
Oh (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
Narissa (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
Adam Soong (PIC S2, "Farewell")
 
As a huge fan of Picard season 2, I will next save Adam Soong. There were all sorts of problems with the way he was plotted, but, Brent Spiner, so it works well enough.

Backwards Time Universe (TAS S2, "The Counter-Clock Incident")
Predatory Vines of Surata IV (TNG S2, "Shades Of Grey")
Crosis (TNG S6, "Descent")
Silik (ENT S1, "Shockwave")
Future Guy (ENT S1, "Shockwave")
Duras (ENT S2, "The Expanse")
Sphere Builder Primary, Sphere Builder Presage, & Sphere Builder Woman (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Na'kuhl Nazi (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Admiral Pressman (ENT S4, "These Are The Voyages...")
The Klingon War (DIS S1, "Will You Take My Hand?")
Control (DIS S2, "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2")
Oh (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
Narissa (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
 
Saving Future Guy because we never actually find out who that was.


Backwards Time Universe (TAS S2, "The Counter-Clock Incident")
Predatory Vines of Surata IV (TNG S2, "Shades Of Grey")
Crosis (TNG S6, "Descent")
Silik (ENT S1, "Shockwave")
Duras (ENT S2, "The Expanse")
Sphere Builder Primary, Sphere Builder Presage, & Sphere Builder Woman (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Na'kuhl Nazi (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Admiral Pressman (ENT S4, "These Are The Voyages...")
The Klingon War (DIS S1, "Will You Take My Hand?")
Control (DIS S2, "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2")
Oh (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
Narissa (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
 
Saving the Backwards Time Universe, because hey, when you give us a legendary captain, and we get to see him in his prime, I could really not care less if your rules make sense!

Predatory Vines of Surata IV (TNG S2, "Shades Of Grey")
Crosis (TNG S6, "Descent")
Silik (ENT S1, "Shockwave")
Duras (ENT S2, "The Expanse")
Sphere Builder Primary, Sphere Builder Presage, & Sphere Builder Woman (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Na'kuhl Nazi (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Admiral Pressman (ENT S4, "These Are The Voyages...")
The Klingon War (DIS S1, "Will You Take My Hand?")
Control (DIS S2, "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2")
Oh (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
Narissa (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
 
I gotta save the Predatory Vines Of Surata IV. They are really well designed! That planet set is great.

Crosis (TNG S6, "Descent")
Silik (ENT S1, "Shockwave")
Duras (ENT S2, "The Expanse")
Sphere Builder Primary, Sphere Builder Presage, & Sphere Builder Woman (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Na'kuhl Nazi (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Admiral Pressman (ENT S4, "These Are The Voyages...")
The Klingon War (DIS S1, "Will You Take My Hand?")
Control (DIS S2, "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2")
Oh (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
Narissa (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
 
There's no Crisis here:

Crosis (TNG S6, "Descent")

Just Lore playing puppeteer to some emotions bluetoothed over to Data*:

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Dude's got some placidity with his shiny new psychosis, for sure... A shame the whole story was more downs than ups, but when it worked it genuinely did.

* I hope that's not a spoiler thing, since it's been... three decades now :wah:

What's left:
Silik (ENT S1, "Shockwave")
Duras (ENT S2, "The Expanse")
Sphere Builder Primary, Sphere Builder Presage, & Sphere Builder Woman (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Na'kuhl Nazi (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Admiral Pressman (ENT S4, "These Are The Voyages...")
The Klingon War (DIS S1, "Will You Take My Hand?")
Control (DIS S2, "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2")
Oh (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
Narissa (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
 
We might not see Admiral Pressman in the Enterprise finale, but if he's on this list, he's gone now. Right or wrong, he was willing to take risks to get the Federation off its knees.

Silik (ENT S1, "Shockwave")
Duras (ENT S2, "The Expanse")
Sphere Builder Primary, Sphere Builder Presage, & Sphere Builder Woman (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Na'kuhl Nazi (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
The Klingon War (DIS S1, "Will You Take My Hand?")
Control (DIS S2, "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2")
Oh (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
Narissa (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
 
Saving Silik next.

He was an odd one... but well played by John Fleck, whose voice works for any species. (He goes all the way back to season 4 TNG, "The Mind's Eye" as a Romulan. He was recently on an episode of THE ORVILLE.)


Duras (ENT S2, "The Expanse")
Sphere Builder Primary, Sphere Builder Presage, & Sphere Builder Woman (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Na'kuhl Nazi (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Admiral Pressman (ENT S4, "These Are The Voyages...")
The Klingon War (DIS S1, "Will You Take My Hand?")
Control (DIS S2, "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2")
Oh (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
Narissa (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
 
The Sphere Builders. I was glad we got a matriarchal alien race, for a change.

Duras
(ENT S2, "The Expanse")
Na'kuhl Nazi (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
The Klingon War (DIS S1, "Will You Take My Hand?")
Control (DIS S2, "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2")
Oh (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
Narissa (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
 
We might not see Admiral Pressman in the Enterprise finale, but if he's on this list, he's gone now. Right or wrong, he was willing to take risks to get the Federation off its knees.

Silik (ENT S1, "Shockwave")
Duras (ENT S2, "The Expanse")
Sphere Builder Primary, Sphere Builder Presage, & Sphere Builder Woman (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
Na'kuhl Nazi (ENT S3, "Zero Hour")
The Klingon War (DIS S1, "Will You Take My Hand?")
Control (DIS S2, "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2")
Oh (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
Narissa (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")

I can't believe I would ever say this, but I was actually going to save "THESE ARE THE VOYAGES..." on my next turn.

That entire sentence feels like a non sequitur. I... would have... SAVED... THAT...episode.

Ugh... I feel so dirty.
 
That entire sentence feels like a non sequitur. I... would have... SAVED... THAT...episode.

Ugh... I feel so dirty.

Pressman wasn't the villain in THAT episode. There was this green guy who kidnapped Shran's kid, though.

Pressman was the villain (well, antagonist anyway) in the much more palatable "The Pegasus".

And in any case, I did the dirty deed before you could.
 
Con mucho gusto. It was actually an Ok piece of fanservice, ruined strictly by the fact that it was the series finale. Unlike Threshold or Code of Honor, which were just bad.
 
Actually, I can defend "THRESHOLD" because it actually gave Paris some good character scenes, particularly his plea with Janeway to take the flight and the last scene. Also, it was creepy during his changes... very TWILIGHT ZONE or OUTER LIMITS like. As a horror fan, I appreciate that.

And I can even defend "Code of Honor" with "THRESHOLD" against "THESE ARE THE VOYAGES..." for one simple reason... it was actually about characters of their own series!
 
Oh, I just rewatched "Descent" pt 1. I'd have rescued him a lot earlier. The main downer is, go figure, the incidental muzak - most of which is entirely inappropriate for the episode. Thankfully there's not much, and when there is - sometimes it works so it's not all bad. But the bad bits, which weren't great back then, stick out far worse now. But, again, those interludes are few and there's rather a great build-up and adventure to be had, with the mystery of Data. (But I'd have Crosis figuring out Data before Data kills the drone, though it's not beyond possibility that Lore was already controlling him behind the scenes, so it works...) Had Ron Jones scored this episode, that alone would have elevated it to season 3-level panache. Actually, any of the big three (Jones, Chattaway, McCarthy) would have done this episode justice with the season 1-4 style, as they were all around since the beginning and the edict for 5-7 is what really sent a sour note onto so many stories and seemingly needlessly so... (Sorry for the pun...)

Crosis is simply marvelous as a character with this splinter group of the Borg.

The plotline started with hairy Hugh in "I, Borg" has a great payoff for "Descent" pt1, though everyone is oh-so-certain that Geordi's equivalent of an Escher painting would wipe out the Borg with ease -- and chances are more than high that, had they used the Escher trope, the Borg would have been completely unfazed, and I like the idea that a group of Borg detached from the Collective and became a bunch of psychos. (I say it's a "splinter" , the episode is a little vague, but it makes far more sense for them to have splintered off, redefined their technology, then go around randomly slaughtering people brutally.

Remember what Picard said early on:

PICARD: Ohniaka Three? There's no strategic value to that outpost. Were they able to identify the attackers?

When the Away teams beams down, Riker's line at the start is a giveaway - a pre-revealing of the Borg as it's a by-the-numbers reversal of the edit accorded the Borg in previous stories:

RIKER: There's not much damage. It doesn't look like they were interested in the station, just the people.

Maybe if it was done like:

RIKER: As expected, the station looks intact. So what is so special about these people if the base isn't of any value?
(followed by closet door opening with dramatic dun-dunnn-dunnnnnnn reveal, which is still quite a shocker, even if the ginormous vessel is still "screaming 'Yo, I'm the Borg' all hidden in plain sight, just like the pink elephant in the room". )

And not since Tasha Yar's has seeing any pointless deaths lead to a properly scary foe.

Of course, "Why is a Borg just standing there all the doo-dah-day?" Because he's part of the trap, transmitting to Data the emotional manipulation routine Lore had created. The story's build-up with all this is rather quite good...

But if the Borg are not interested in technology or acquisition of materials any more, they must have figured out replication technology (thanks, Q from "Q-Who"!) to really soup up their ship... Incidentally, the new ship design is a true feast for the eyes, in color and geometric layout. For a bunch of psychopaths, it's quite gorgeous and the Borg should have taken up art classes instead? But how many artists in human history ended up being psychopaths in one form or another? There is perhaps a collective theme...

descentpartone102.jpg

It's far, far more formidable in HD: https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/season-6/6x26/descent-part1-hd-085.jpg

Loved the Stephen Hawking cameo as well. Terrific little scene to start the season 6 finale with...
 
And I can even defend "Code of Honor" with "THRESHOLD" against "THESE ARE THE VOYAGES..." for one simple reason... it was actually about characters of their own series!

Yes. But if TATV had been a mid 4th season episode, the inclusion of Riker and Troi would have been a nifty piece of fanservice. As opposed to a vicious slap across the fans' face.
 
Maybe. I agree that it wouldn't be as reviled if it were placed anywhere except the end of the series. Whether it would be considered a nifty piece of fanservice or not is another question.
 
I'm not a really big fan of any of these. I'll plump for Na'kuhl Nazi, mosly fo the Twilight Zone-esque end to season 3.

Duras
(ENT S2, "The Expanse")
The Klingon War (DIS S1, "Will You Take My Hand?")
Control (DIS S2, "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2")
Oh (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
Narissa (PIC S1, "Et In Arcadia Ego, Part 2")
 
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