DCCU vs MCU Discussion Thread

[theenglish]

Someone mentioned in another thread how every DC or Marvel Thread seems to break down into a debate about which property does it better. It is becoming a little tiresome for many. So, here is the thread to have that discussion.

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My personal opinion is that I enjoy both Marvel and DC, although I tend to lean heavier on DC in my comic reading and slightly more in favor of the MCU on screen. But mainly, I am just really happy that we have so much to watch these days, considering that for most of my life there was little quality comic book stories told on screen.

POLL Added, but I am open to changes and additions.

 

[fireproof78]

They both have their ups and downs.

Marvel will never beat 60s Batman though.

 

[Morpheus 02]

Actually, would it be OK if, when I get home , I set up a NEW thread...with a poll. So we can see how many are MCU, DCFU, or multicultural? I think THAT will be more useful...that way we can see from the poll who we should ignore, and who might not be the enemy we think they are

 

[F. King Daniel]

Nothing has touched movies like Joker or Logan, IMHO.

I loved the "Snyderverse" DC movies, but they mostly went downhill after. Give me the Ayer cut of Suicide Squad over The Suicide Squad any day. The Flash looks like it could be fun but I suspect it's gonna suck balls and with Ezra Miller going off the rails I suspect it's doomed at this point anyway. I loved the MCU but after Endgame they fell off a cliff too, at least until the latest Spider-Man and Doctor Strange movies got things back on track. Eternals was utterly awful.

I guess both are a mixed bag, MCU more consistent but DC hitting higher highs and lower lows.

 

[ToddKent]

The MCU seems to be at its best when it crosses over with itself while the DC movies seem to be better when the characters are off in their own separate little corners. My opinion, at least.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Actually, would it be OK if, when I get home , I set up a NEW thread...with a poll. So we can see how many are MCU, DCFU, or multicultural? I think THAT will be more useful...that way we can see from the poll who we should ignore, and who might not be the enemy we think they are

Might be useful but only if you have a gamut of options and not simply "MCU, DCEU, both, neither." Include such options like "Love the MCU/love only parts of the DCEU" and variations of that nature.

 

[Morpheus 02]

Might be useful but only if you have a gamut of options and not simply "MCU, DCEU, both, neither." Include such options like "Love the MCU/love only parts of the DCEU" and variations of that nature.

Oh absolutely. I am open to suggestions as to the variants.

Definitely one is Multicultural = I love BOTH DC and Marvel

Also
Complicated = I have a multiverse of thoughts and nuance

 

[theenglish]

Poll is up. Send me any ideas for changes or additions.

 

[Anwar]

Nothing has touched movies like Joker or Logan, IMHO.

A Taxi Driver wannabe and a generic predictable Western? That's all?

 

[Morpheus 02]

Can you change it from DCCU to DCLA (for Live Action). Really...that COULD include animated, like the MCU includes Disney + including animation.

The MCU is mostly all connected, but the DC multiverse is literally all over the place

 

[theenglish]

Sorry--it doesn't want to allow me to change the actual options I posted.

 

[JD]

I like both but prefer the MCU.
I've enjoyed pretty much all of the MCU movies, even Iron Man 2, and Thor: The Dark World, although they're still my least favorite movies in the franchise.
I'd put my favorites, like Infinity War & Endgame, both Guardians of the Galaxy movies, Ragnarok, Black Panther, and The Winter Soldier right up there as some of my favorite movies of all time.
The DCCU/DCEU/whatever you want to call it has been a bit more hit or miss for me. I thought the Snyder movies were OK, and I actually enjoyed Suicide Squad and the Whedon version of Justice League. I'd the first Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Birds of Prey, and The Suicide Squad are right up there with the best of the MCU. I liked Shazam quite a bit, but I'm not sure if I'd put it up there with those.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Sorry--it doesn't want to allow me to change the actual options I posted.

Yeah, you can't make changes once someone votes (pretty sure you can still edit as long as there aren't any votes).

As for the actual poll, I much prefer the MCU. I also love Shazam!, Birds of Prey, Harley Quinn, and enjoy The Batman (although I can't say I love it, at least not yet) but I'm not fan of the rest.

 

[Saul]

I like Marvel and DC but when we are talking about MCU and DCCU then of course it's got to be Marvel. Marvel held the line, weathered it's problems and went from good to great and became one of the most coherent and well thought out franchises within 10 years.
There are some DCCU movies and series I like but it's pretty messy, there were a lot of course changes, sometimes it felt dark for the sake of being dark. They haven't really embraced the full potential of what a DCCU could be. The DC animated Universe was so brilliant. I'd like to see something like that.

 

[ichab]

MCU, but it's hardly much of a comparison when one had a plan and stuck with it thru 20 plus movies while the other quit their shared universe after just 4 or 5 films.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Capturing the essence of a character and successfully integrating that (and fantasy elements) in real world settings with reactions one would expect in a structurally sound story is what I want out of any superhero film. It is not a DC v. Marvel matter, hence the reason I find the best MC/TCU productions have been:

Captain America: The First Avenger
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
The Incredible Hulk
Thor
The Punisher
Daredevil
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

...and around 75% of Captain Marvel and Captain America: Civil War.

That's the Marvel productions being serious, coherent and taking the serious dive into the hero's motives / beliefs.

..and of course, from the DCEU:

Man of Steel
Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice
Wonder Woman
Zack Snyder's Justice League

Outside of the DECU: Joker.

...and close to 75% - 80% of Aquaman after a recent revisit.

Aside from the DCEU movies, only the CW's Black Lightning was was a solid production (the one and only great DC/CW series thanks to who did not develop and run it), with its often no-punches-pulled take on a superhero dealing with real world matters almost perfectly interwoven with fantasy elements.

There is no either/or, as both franchises have films I have not watched more than one time (meaning it was never worth a second viewing), which is the reason they're not listed here.

 

[Anwar]

Capturing the essence of a character and successfully integrating that (and fantasy elements) in real world settings with reactions one would expect in a structurally sound story is what I want out of any superhero film.

You want to them to all be creatively bankrupt and never embrace the truly wondrous, then.

 

[fireproof78]

Capturing the essence of a character and successfully integrating that (and fantasy elements) in real world settings with reactions one would expect in a structurally sound story is what I want out of any superhero film. It is n

I like that. Blade really set the tone for me like that.

 

[ichab]

Thought this would be a good place to put a top 20 list(live action) from watchmojo since it concerns both sides...

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My top 20(at the moment) would be

1.) Superman(1978)
2.) The Dark Knight
3.) Xmen: Days of Futures Past
4.) Zach Snyder's Justice League
5.) Captain America: The Winter Soldier
6.) Avengers: Infiniti War
7.) Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice(director's cut)
8.) Spiderman: No Way Home
9.) Avengers: 2012
10.) Doctor Strange: In the Multiverse of Madness
11.) Guardians of the Galaxy
12.) The Batman
13.) Ironman
14.) Captain America: The First Avenger
15.) Xmen: First Class
16.) Wonder Woman
17.) Spiderman 2
18.) Superman 2
19.) Batman Begins
20.) Batman (1989)

 

[Grendelsbayne]

1 Avengers Endgame
2 The Dark Knight
3 Shang-Chi
4 Spiderman Homecoming
5 Avengers Infinity War
6 Kick-Ass
7 Dr Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
8 X-Men Days of Future Past
9 Avengers
10 Captain Marvel
11 Man of Steel
12 Wonder Woman 1984
13 Logan
14 Captain America Civil War
15 X2 X-Men United
16 Spider-Man No Way Home
17 Captain America The Winter Soldier
18 Guardians of the Galaxy
19 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol II
20 Black Panther