TMP-DE fully restored in 4K…it’s about time!

[fireproof78]

You must have missed the part where I said it was.

The ringship appeared in the ENT episode "First Flight". There's a picture of it on the wall of the 602 Club.

No, I didn't. Being a picture on the wall does not make it "on the show." To clarify, the ship was not a main setting on a show like the NX-01 was.

As far as Star Trek history goes the ring ship is as important as the aircraft carrier.

Now, I'm not saying this a good reason per sey but it is a reason to see that acknowledgement happen.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

As far as Star Trek history goes the ring ship is as important as the aircraft carrier.

Going by that reasoning, they could replace the ringship with the SECOND aircraft carrier (CVN-65) because Trek actually had a scene set aboard it in ST IV.

Would you be in favor of that?

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The ringship made up 50% of all known Starship Enterprises from 1979 to 1986.

 

[fireproof78]

Going by that reasoning, they could replace the ringship with the SECOND aircraft carrier (CVN-65) because Trek actually had a scene set aboard it in ST IV.

Would you be in favor of that?

In favor of? No.

See the reasoning behind it? Sure.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Since the ringship was central to one of Gene Roddenberry's ideas for a show, I'd say that makes it pretty important to Trek history.

In any case, it's not like we really see those pictures close up, so they may have thought it not worth the effort to put the NX-01 in there since it'd have to appear as a grainy black and white image.

 

[Therin of Andor]

No reason? Why not acknowledge Trek history?

It wasn't history the last time Robert Wise worked on his DE.

 

[fireproof78]

Since the ringship was central to one of Gene Roddenberry's ideas for a show, I'd say that makes it pretty important to Trek history.

And where is that in the show?

It wasn't history the last time Robert Wise worked on his DE.

True. As I said I'm not in favor of it but I see the rational. Makes sense to me.

 

[Therin of Andor]

And where is that in the show?

Canonical appearances of Enterprise XCV-330:
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(XCV_330)

 

[fireproof78]

Canonical appearances of Enterprise XCV-330:
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(XCV_330)

As a hero ship?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I have a question about the DE:

The TOS-style shuttlecraft that appears at the air tram station was named Conrad.

I know Daren Dochterman chose the name, but does anybody know who he intended to name it for?

The astronaut Pete Conrad, maybe?

"Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small step for Neil, but it's a long one for me!"

 

[publiusr]

In favor of? No.

See the reasoning behind it? Sure.

Each of those screens could have “flipped “ showing a ship history in the latest version.

 

[Warped9]

Each of those screens could have “flipped “ showing a ship history in the latest version.

That wouldn’t have been done in 1979 even if they had the time. Additionally the NX-01 design would not yet exist for more than another twenty years.

 

[fireproof78]

Each of those screens could have “flipped “ showing a ship history in the latest version.

A good thought.

 

[publiusr]

No but there were other bits of Matt’s art that might have been used
https://forgottentrek.com/the-original-series/designing-the-first-enterprise/

Fine at a distance

 

[Therin of Andor]

Each of those screens could have “flipped “ showing a ship history in the latest version.

In 2001, before we even knew the NX-01, fans were suggesting that the frames in the Rec Deck were screensavers, scrolling through a number of other "Enterprise" images. But then people would complain that they were so busy watching the frames flip, they forgot to listen to Decker's dialogue.

Kobayashi Maru.

 

[Therin of Andor]

As a hero ship?

Is that a rule now? It may yet turn up in an episode for a more substantial appearance. In fact, any new HMS Enterprise showing up before TMP's time period would create the same complication. It also doesn't have the Enterprize we saw on the holodeck in "Generations".

 

[Tosk]

Good news, around the same time this hits disc in September we're also getting the new scans of Trek 5 and 6. Woot!

 

[Jeyl]

But then people would complain that they were so busy watching the frames flip, they forgot to listen to Decker's dialogue.

I highly doubt audiences would forget how their ears work simply because there were looking at a slideshow happening in 1/10th of the screen. Especially if Kirk's log ends just before Decker says his line.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I highly doubt audiences would forget how their ears work simply because there were looking at a slideshow happening in 1/10th of the screen. Especially if Kirk's log ends just before Decker says his line.

I have been wrangling pedantic comments about TMP and its several versions for many years now. Yes, there would be complaints. LOL.

 

[fireproof78]

Is that a rule now? It may yet turn up in an episode for a more substantial appearance. In fact, any new HMS Enterprise showing up before TMP's time period would create the same complication. It also doesn't have the Enterprize we saw on the holodeck in "Generations".

A rule? No.

A curiosity of mine? Yes. This ring ship is held up as extremely important with very limited information. Versus an actual hero ship. Again, not saying TMP should include the NX-01 but the idea that there is "no reason" to do it is one I find quite odd.