Spoilers Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness grade and discussion thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by The Nth Doctor, May 3, 2022.

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How do you rate Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness?

  1. A+

    4.4%
  2. A

    17.6%
  3. A-

    17.6%
  4. B+

    22.1%
  5. B

    14.7%
  6. B-

    8.8%
  7. C+

    7.4%
  8. C

    7.4%
  9. C-

    0 vote(s)
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  10. D+

    0 vote(s)
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  11. D

    0 vote(s)
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  12. D-

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  13. F

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  1. dupersuper

    dupersuper Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Plus, y'know, the Darkhold. That thing drove an LMD crazy in Agents of SHIELD.
     
  2. Kai "the spy"

    Kai "the spy" Admiral Admiral

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    But...
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  3. dupersuper

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    I'll always consider it so, but regardless: the darkhold isn't something you wanna' mess with.
     
  4. Oso Blanco

    Oso Blanco Commodore Commodore

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    Yes, it is!
     
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  5. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    This is probably a more serious reply than the post warrants, but even if the show isn't 616 proper, I think it's safe to assume that it takes place somewhere in the Multiverse and the movie references there being a darkhold in every universe.
     
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  6. Grendelsbayne

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    Even more than that, the movie implies that every darkhold in every universe is a copy of the same original source: When Wanda destroyed the original carvings in the Wundagore temple, the movie says she destroyed every darkhold in existence.
     
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  7. tomalak301

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    I keep seeing the Darkhold pop up in the MCU and I am bummed that they haven't mentioned Agents of Shield and the fact that they actually dealt with the book. I know it's been said that AOS is kind of that forgotten part of the MCU, but I really wish they would actually make the connection.
     
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  8. STEPhon IT

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    I have a question. How does this connect with the revelation seen in the finale of "Loki"? Kang conquers the Multiverse correct or was it another universe? If it was this Multiverse, I would've loved to see a glimpse of what Kang's influence might be?
     
  9. Turtletrekker

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    That same version of the Darkhold also appeared on Runaways weilded by Morgan leFay.
     
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  10. Anwar

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    We haven't been made certain of what effect Kang's death has had on reality yet.
     
  11. The Nth Doctor

    The Nth Doctor Infinite Possibilities... Premium Member

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    The delightful bloopers reel is full of dancing and leaves blowing into mouths.



    Just in time before the film is released on Disney+ this Wednesday.
     
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  12. Mr. Adventure

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    Didn't notice it in the movie but in that clip Xochitl Gomez reminds me some of Acquafina.
     
  13. Starbreaker

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    I finally got around to seeing it and really enjoyed it. Sam Raimi brought a fresh style to the MCU, which I appreciated. I did feel like it could have been about 30 minutes longer and allow itself time to breathe and be with the characters.
     
  14. FPAlpha

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    Seen it now and thankfully didn't pay money for it in the cinema, we even thought about doing a longer trip to see it in IMAX.

    In short - weak story and characters masked by an onslaught of special effects.

    Where the film fails for me is Wanda itself - i just don't buy her as a villain even though we knew she'd be it when we watched the after credits of Wandavision. Wandavision was great once they were done with the 50s style humor episodes ( which i didn't find funny or endearing at all) - a show basically dedicated to her grief over losing Vision. Aftercredits already suggested she'd taken a dark path but basically repeating elements of Wandavision just fell short to me, even if it was a logical progression from Wandavision.

    Strange just jumps from strange (pun intended) occurence to another - i don't know if it's supposed to be funny, creative or something else but they crammed so much into the movie it felt like it lost focus on a story they wanted to tell. It was basically just jumping from big CGI sequence to the next and i have to say this Marvel formula is starting to wear thin after 20+ movies.
    It works when the story is really good such as in No Way Home but here it was just numbing and it didn't grip me at all.

    Some things were nice such as the Illuminati, good callback to the comics and i especially liked Captain Carter though they once again took a huge dump on Black Bolt ( fortunately Anson Mount has found his role to shine in Strange New Worlds). Prof. X was spoiled from miles away in the trailers ( they just couldn't resist) so this appearance fell flat and Krasinski as Reed was fan service ( nice but ultimately meaningless cameo).

    Yeah, i gave it a C and would put it somewhere in the lower half of MCU movies.
     
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  15. Anwar

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    I don't get how anyone can say "No Way Home" had a good story, the whole movie was gutless fanservice.
     
  16. fireproof78

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    As someone who generally opposes fan service that film has a great story around acceptance of the role Spider-man plays. I loved it. My wife loved it. My kids loved it.

    Gutless I guess.
     
  17. Anwar

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    Bringing back Tobey and Andrew and their old villains (which was a big draw of the older movies, the scene-stealing villains) was gutless. A tactic to draw in people who disliked the MCU and just liked the older Spider-Man stuff.
     
  18. fireproof78

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    I was the only one of family members who watched those movies. Someone, despite the "gutless" descriptor you use they for some stupid reason enjoyed it as much as I did.

    Stupid people we are I guess. Oh, and my wife and I like most of the MCU. How dare we?
     
  19. The Knappos

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    Have you just skipped ahead to the end of Phase Seven?!
     
  20. F. King Daniel

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    Just saw this for a 2nd time, loved it again. It's not perfect, but it's everything I love.
     
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