He says he needs a starship. Given that McCoy was recently trying to charter a flight one would imagine going to Nimbus III might have not been the best choice to meet his needs.
Sybok. Do you think he was doing the right thing?
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According to the novelization, if memory serves, Sulu was on a colony during an attack. It's been a while since I've read the novelization...
Probably something akin to Uhura's nightmares from an episode. Or not being able to speak. There was a comic that did a better job of exploring this idea.
It’s not that Sybok was right or wrong. He had a vision and he fully bought into it. What I wanna know is why Kirk wasn’t even a little interested. Imagine if the film played out much the same way until the revelation.
Kirk: “Your vision?”
Sybok: “Given to me by God. He waits for us on the other side.”
Kirk: “By…God?”
Sybok nods eagerly.
McCoy: “Jim, you can’t honestly believe God is talking to him.”
Kirk: “It’s obvious he believes it.”
Spock (concentrating): “Sybok does seem to be in contact with an intelligence of some sort. Extremely powerful, directed solely at him. But I can feel it.”
McCoy: “That’s crazy.”
Kirk: “Is it? Whether or not it’s actually God is irrelevant. What matters is that it’s an unknown life form. We have to seek it out. It’s why we’re here.”
Sybok smiles, allows the doors to open and gestures to the corridor.
Sybok: “After you, Captain.”
At that point, it becomes the crew's journey.
Kirk: “Your vision?”
Sybok: “Given to me by God. He waits for us on the other side.”
Kirk: “By…God?”
Sybok nods eagerly.
McCoy: “Jim, you can’t honestly believe God is talking to him.”
Kirk: “It’s obvious he believes it.”
Spock (concentrating): “Sybok does seem to be in contact with an intelligence of some sort. Extremely powerful, directed solely at him. But I can feel it.”
McCoy: “That’s crazy.”
Kirk: “Is it? Whether or not it’s actually God is irrelevant. What matters is that it’s an unknown life form. We have to seek it out. It’s why we’re here.”
Sybok smiles, allows the doors to open and gestures to the corridor.
Sybok: “After you, Captain.”
At that point, it becomes the crew's journey.
Indeed. Such an experience, plus Sybok trying to harm him, might color Kirk's judgment.
No, I don’t think that kidnapping diplomats in order to hijack a starship so he can use it to find God™ was the “right thing” to do.
Maybe if the god in question is Aphrodite, sure.
"Sybok. Do you think he was doing the right thing?"
No. If he had the power to get anyone devoted to his quest, he should have used said power to simply ask someone to get him a ship. The film establishes that people from other worlds visit Nimbus III and Paradise City even has a communications station that can call for help. At least if he did it this way, fewer people would have been hurt and he likely would have gotten a ship that actually functioned properly.
It might have been an interesting twist if Sybok thought the ship had been legally obtained for him (this is a problem if it's a Starfleet vessel, though...) and that it turned out his followers were so devoted to him (unbeknownst to him) that they were the ones who committed the problematic actions without his knowledge. And a bit of a reflection on how religion can go astray from the intent.
Though it might be too depressing if it turned out that Sybok was not only duped by God but had been 'betrayed' by his own followers as well.
Though it might be too depressing if it turned out that Sybok was not only duped by God but had been 'betrayed' by his own followers as well.
Sybok is one of the most interesting guest characters in all 13 movies.
I’ll fight anyone on that point.
Well, he's one of the few guest characters who isn't overtly an antagonist.
Interesting that both sybok and Spock were contacted by external intelligences (vger and …er….God). Runs in the family?
Is Sarek hiding such a contact in his past? Will Michael be contacted by some one? Spock's son with Zarabeth in the novels?
Um, eh, that picture didn't show up.Sybok is one of the most interesting guest characters in all 13 movies.
I’ll fight anyone on that point.
Zar could be interesting. Also, revisit the Guardian. Also, nice security guards.
Oh dang...that's too bad. It was a little bird looking cutely aggressive, with the caption "COME AT ME BRO!"
I think you're right.
For all this movie's problems, Luckinbill isn't one of them. He's a fantastic actor who manages to elevate the script from "awful" to something closer to "embarassing".
I mean, he was being misled by a super-being but I imagine he was otherwise a nice guy.
His powers are suspiciously similar to mind-control.
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