A critical look at TMP set design…
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lol, perhaps Starfleet hired one of those aliens to redesign the uniforms.
Admiral: “what is this? We told you to keep the same colours!”
Designer: “I did”
Admiral: “no, you didn’t!”
Designer: “looks exactly the same to me”.
They were built over the top of the previous sets. When the soundstage was completely cleared for "Enterprise" - for the first time since 1977 - they were removing long wood-rot encrusted support struts that still read "Star Trek II", as in the "Phase II" cancelled TV series.
Correct. You can even see the gold and silver leopards and eagles on the $10,000 red robes of the Chief Betelgeusian Ambassador as he swishes them around in the background, between Sonak and Kirk ascending the travelator.
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I get the idea of the TMP uniforms, but I question the execution.
Having the trousers attached to the shoes or bootlets was to promote a sleek look, but it was awkward and in some shots looked weird. More traditional trousers or slacks would have been better. Close fitting dress slacks are available today just as they were in the ‘60s, and we have better fabrics today.
The same colour used for tunic and slacks can make some think of pyjamas or a pantsuit, which can look odd on a man. This was accentuated by the cut of the tunic’s hem which was rather unusual. It might also have been better to opt for trousers and boots that were darker than the tunic.
I did not like the beige tone used. It bugged me. There are nicer, more appealing, soft or taupe brown/golds that could be used. And if used for command staff it would have tied in back to the TOS colour scheme. The blue/grey should have been for sciences. A different colour could have been found for support services.
Having the trousers attached to the shoes or bootlets was to promote a sleek look, but it was awkward and in some shots looked weird. More traditional trousers or slacks would have been better. Close fitting dress slacks are available today just as they were in the ‘60s, and we have better fabrics today.
The same colour used for tunic and slacks can make some think of pyjamas or a pantsuit, which can look odd on a man. This was accentuated by the cut of the tunic’s hem which was rather unusual. It might also have been better to opt for trousers and boots that were darker than the tunic.
I did not like the beige tone used. It bugged me. There are nicer, more appealing, soft or taupe brown/golds that could be used. And if used for command staff it would have tied in back to the TOS colour scheme. The blue/grey should have been for sciences. A different colour could have been found for support services.
There were already tight looking (if not spandex) uniforms, as in the series UFO:
I forgot about that. Especially when the navy shirtless-yet-vested outfits were far more memorable. More so as I never saw the show but had seen a couple photos...
Wow
Really all they needed to do was take Kirk's pants and boots from his dress uniform. Darker than the tunic, and didn't have the interconnectedness. Maybe black boots instead of grey.
Really all they needed to do was take Kirk's pants and boots from his dress uniform. Darker than the tunic, and didn't have the interconnectedness. Maybe black boots instead of grey.
Haven't fiddled with the tunic yet, but I did get to the pants and shoes, as the shoes alone looked a bit naff:
That looks great. I don't think the dress uniforms need contrasting pants as much as the duty uniforms, though. Maybe it's all the white.
I think dark pants and boots paired with the gray tunics would have been perfect.with the gull-grey tunics.
I think dark pants and boots paired with the gray tunics would have been perfect.with the gull-grey tunics.
Some various commentaries about the robe being too short and such?
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/why-did-the-vger-probe-take-ilia.247237/page-3
https://screenrant.com/terrible-moments-for-women-in-star-trek/
https://www.theyboldlywent.com/trekbooks/2020/01/star-trek-the-motion-picture-novelization-review/
etc
You guys are missing the most important thing.
Was Chief DiFalco a total smoke show or what?
Was Chief DiFalco a total smoke show or what?
I really wish Lafferty had remained the ship’s navigator in the sequel films because Kirstie Alley never tickled my fancy (even before she began slowly sinking to the center of the planet under her own weight).
I thought TOS true colors would've been better especially through the cinematic lens. Could you color it to look like that; Kirk's dress uniform look more like the avocado green look from "Journey to Babel" no whites just a lighter color of green on the mid torso and darker version of on the sides and arms? The same with science for Spock, a different shade of blue. McCoy's outfit could look more like the shirt sleeve tunic he wore. Just for fun. Please?Try these on. I made one small change since Scotty didn't want to be there but Spock did?!
Kirk - the original space traffic light and power ranger!
As opposed to this leaden comment...
We are censoring women's legs now?
Persis rejected her matching slacks. She wanted people to see her legs. It wasn't GR's idea.
Costumes of "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" by Ian McLean, on Flickr
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We are censoring women's legs now?
Persis rejected her matching slacks. She wanted people to see her legs. It wasn't GR's idea.
Costumes of "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" by Ian McLean, on Flickr
I thought I had read everything about the film over the past 40 years yet only recently saw that interview where she insists she was the one who pushed for the robe without pants. I, too always thought it was GRs idea.
In fairness, I'm pretty sure Gene didn't put up much of a fight when she suggested it. 
