A critical look at TMP set design…

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by Warped9, Feb 6, 2022.

  1. JonnyQuest037

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    That was nice of him. He also always made a point of including Grace Lee Whitney on the Trek films he directed and produced, which speaks well of him.
     
  2. dupersuper

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    Didn't he also refuse to come back for TAS until the supporting cast were included?
     
  3. Therin of Andor

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    Yes. He was agog when the original proposal had Doohan and Barrett doubling for Takei and Nichols to save budget.

    (Ironically, Nichelle Nichols then got to voice Dr Sarah April.)
     
  4. JonnyQuest037

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    It's amazing that only Nimoy was savvy/empathic enough to see that replacing ST's only Asian and African American cast members for TAS and replacing them with two white actors was not a good look, especially for Star Trek. Good on him for going to bat for Takei and Nichols.
     
  5. McCoy's Disco Collar

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    I don't know if Nimoy was specifically concerned about representation, or just upset at the way his colleagues were treated.

    Either way, speaks very well of him. He was a mensch.
     
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    He had a quote about the optics of it, so probably both.
     
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    I will gladly stand corrected, then. I don't remember that part.

    Either way, the contrast between Trek's two biggest stars is pretty remarkable.
     
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    Wait, do we?

    Crusher, yes. And Troi for sure. LaForge even, if that little room next to the Warp Core is considered his "office". But I don't remember Worf or Riker having their own offices.
     
  9. jackoverfull

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    probably in one, maximum two episodes.
     
  10. Pauln6

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    I do wonder what they would have given her to do in TWoK beyond milling around in the background. Her role in STIV was trimmed as well, and her deleted scenes have never been released.

    I think Grace ended up in STVI as a result of a fan vote (and even there her scenes were reduced) but I do lament the fact that Majel wasn't also recruited for Sulu's crew. It would have been nice to see all the main recurring original cast together at the end of TMP but even more so in one final scene together in STVI. At least they all appear together at the end of STIV.
     
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    I don't think we do.

    Which episodes do you think we see their offices in?
     
  12. jackoverfull

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    I’m sorry, I don’t remember. I just remember noticing them during my somewhat recent TNG rewatch, but I might be mistaken.
     
  13. Jedi Marso

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    It's reasonable to expect that any department head aboard a starship, especially a large one, is going to have an office of some sort, even if we never see it in the show. There's a fair amount of administrative work involved with being a DH, and said officer would need a place to have meetings with subordinates, etc. For Worf as security officer, I see his office as being in the equivalent of the ship's armory. Laforge would have an actual office somewhere near engineering, if not necessarily in those spaces.

    In naval aviation, the squadron's maintenance department head is responsible for so many people and so much equipment that 'maintenance admin' is it's own division within the maintenance department, separate from the squadron's overall admin department. In fact, the overriding majority of enlisted personnel in an aviation squadron work in the maintenance dept in some capacity or other. Computers and AI could alleviate a lot of that admin manpower overhead in the 23rd and 24th centuries, but I'd be surprised on a Galaxy Class starship if someone with Geordi's job didn't have a small staff of his own to help him manage the grunt work.
     
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  14. McCoy's Disco Collar

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    Yeah, it makes sense. But we never actually saw any of that.
     
  15. Pauln6

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    There are soooooo many yeomen so there must be offices somewhere.
     
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    We do see a brunette female extra in Majel's adapted white uniform. I guess they'd have beefed up a scene, although I think the script was still being written when it was made known that she was stepping away.

    Her scene with Sarek made it into the comic adaptation.

    Yes and yes. (Riley was runner up.) Christian Slater's mother, Mary Jo, was casting director, so Grace's scene in Sulu's quarters were given to Christian at the last minute, although it made more sense not to have Rand barging into Sulu's quarters while he was asleep. :)
     
  17. Pauln6

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    Oh I dunno though, possibly makes more sense for his friend of 20+ years to wake him than some random dude. She should have brought him some food cubes and celery.