Spoilers The Gorn should sue this show

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Charles Phipps, May 5, 2022.

  1. Thanos007

    Thanos007 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    They have records that go back to at least the 1800s on Earth. They are able to trace a string of serial murders on different planets over centuries. But I guess current events are too much to keep track of.
     
  2. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    8 times. Though 3 of those times were Lorca's skeleton.
     
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    That was a bare bones appearance.
     
  4. DaveyNY

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    So far, we just have an example of civilians and probably their ships having been in contact with the Gorn.
    (and seemingly most have not survived to tell about it)

    Nothing has indicated (yet) that a Star Fleet ship/crew has interacted with them and survived.

    So the record is spotty at best.
     
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  5. Tuskin38

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    La'an's record even says Gorn first contact unconfirmed as she was a child and traumatized from the event, so she's an unreliable witness.

    The Gorn sent her adrift in a life boat, and she probably had no idea where the nursery planet was to tell Starfleet.
     
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  6. Thanos007

    Thanos007 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Where did you see that? Not accusatory just looking to confirm. Or was it dialog?
     
  7. Kaelef

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    I always took the implication to be that the reason records from "that era" are spotty is because of damage from all of the political turmoil and, you know, nuclear war. This actually makes some technical sense: since we have much of current history documented primarily electronically and largely centrally, a world war that decimates much of the central storage could make current records "spotty" while leaving older information - still largely stored in physical copies around the world - largely intact.
     
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  8. DaveyNY

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    They probably didn't even know how long she had been adrift.
     
  9. Tuskin38

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    The pad pike was reading on the shuttle. Ah it says the description was 'vague'
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    So, the text on Pike's PADD while he was in the shuttle on his way to beam aboard Enterprise was blink-and-you-miss it. Has anyone analyzed the text? It looked to me like it was probably saying that La'an was the sole survivor of First Contact with the Gorn.

    ^ Oh, and speaking of....

    Thanks, @Tuskin38 for clearing that up. "Unconfirmed" First Contact.
     
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    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    Wait, wait. Pike said he read the file, but he didn't know that La'an and Una knew each other when it's right there in the file that he said he read?
     
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  12. fireproof78

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    Sounds like me after reading a chart.

    "You read it?"

    "Sure..."
     
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    I'm guessing that he didn't read the entire file, since he was more than a bit annoyed that Admiral April forced him to come back.
    He probably just glanced over it since it was actually part of the new recruits list that would be boarding the Enterprise.
    There were probably more then a few names/entry's on that list.

    Also, he wasn't aware that she would be his new Number One until Spock told him just as they arrived on the bridge.
     
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  14. Serveaux

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    Yeah, I think what we're getting here is that no living person but La'an saw the Gorn who killed her fellows, and her descriptions of them probably are among several survivors' or close encounter stories about them. And now, just recently, a Starfleet vessel or outpost has reported contact for the first time with aliens they believe to be the mysterious "Gorn" themselves.
     
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  15. thribs

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    Good thing about it being telecast in 4K. You can read it now :)
     
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    Heh ... also means that the production crew have to be a lot more attentive to the details.
     
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  17. Thanos007

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    Thanks.... So then, as things stand now, Arena is the "OFFICIAL" first contact? Also... the heck is up with Pike's hand? Good attention to detail or damn someone needs to moisturize?
     
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  18. NewHeavensNewEarth

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    I suppose the Klingons should sue for how they were remade post-TOS? Somehow I can't picture any of the TOS Klingons eating the hearts of their enemies. :klingon: :lol:
     
  19. FredH

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    Do you recall which episode they said that in?
     
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  20. dupersuper

    dupersuper Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yeah, DC Comics are fun as well.

    We do?

    Haven't those also been explained as goggles/tech?

    The toys are canon now?

    Or Gorn without goggles on...?

    Do alternate universe Gorn in an already divergent timeline count as a "subspecies"?

    Does any one remember what the Gorn looked like in Lower Decks?