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Spoilers The Gorn should sue this show

They have records that go back to at least the 1800s on Earth. They are able to trace a string of serial murders on different planets over centuries. But I guess current events are too much to keep track of.
 
So far, we just have an example of civilians and probably their ships having been in contact with the Gorn.
(and seemingly most have not survived to tell about it)

Nothing has indicated (yet) that a Star Fleet ship/crew has interacted with them and survived.

So the record is spotty at best.
 
La'an's record even says Gorn first contact unconfirmed as she was a child and traumatized from the event, so she's an unreliable witness.

The Gorn sent her adrift in a life boat, and she probably had no idea where the nursery planet was to tell Starfleet.
 
La'an's record even says Gorn first contact unconfirmed as she was a child and traumatized from the event, so she's an unreliable witness.
Where did you see that? Not accusatory just looking to confirm. Or was it dialog?
 
They have records that go back to at least the 1800s on Earth. They are able to trace a string of serial murders on different planets over centuries. But I guess current events are too much to keep track of.

I always took the implication to be that the reason records from "that era" are spotty is because of damage from all of the political turmoil and, you know, nuclear war. This actually makes some technical sense: since we have much of current history documented primarily electronically and largely centrally, a world war that decimates much of the central storage could make current records "spotty" while leaving older information - still largely stored in physical copies around the world - largely intact.
 
La'an's record even says Gorn first contact unconfirmed as she was a child and traumatized from the event, so she's an unreliable witness.

The Gorn sent her adrift in a life boat, and she probably had no idea where the nursery planet was to tell Starfleet.
They probably didn't even know how long she had been adrift.
 
Where did you see that? Not accusatory just looking to confirm. Or was it dialog?
The pad pike was reading on the shuttle. Ah it says the description was 'vague'
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So, the text on Pike's PADD while he was in the shuttle on his way to beam aboard Enterprise was blink-and-you-miss it. Has anyone analyzed the text? It looked to me like it was probably saying that La'an was the sole survivor of First Contact with the Gorn.

^ Oh, and speaking of....

Thanks, @Tuskin38 for clearing that up. "Unconfirmed" First Contact.
 
Wait, wait. Pike said he read the file, but he didn't know that La'an and Una knew each other when it's right there in the file that he said he read?
I'm guessing that he didn't read the entire file, since he was more than a bit annoyed that Admiral April forced him to come back.
He probably just glanced over it since it was actually part of the new recruits list that would be boarding the Enterprise.
There were probably more then a few names/entry's on that list.

Also, he wasn't aware that she would be his new Number One until Spock told him just as they arrived on the bridge.
 
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Yeah, I think what we're getting here is that no living person but La'an saw the Gorn who killed her fellows, and her descriptions of them probably are among several survivors' or close encounter stories about them. And now, just recently, a Starfleet vessel or outpost has reported contact for the first time with aliens they believe to be the mysterious "Gorn" themselves.
 
Well, we now have Disco which claims Section 31 was called in to deal with the Gorn when Cestus III was first colonized by humans. For all we know, the Gorn did try do establish peaceful communications, but Section 31 were all "fuck that."

Knowing Section 31 was involved definitely provides context for why the Gorn were the way they were in Arena.

Do you recall which episode they said that in?
 
Oh.

Prefer Gog and Magog.

Yeah, DC Comics are fun as well.

We know that there are subspecies.

We do?

TOS/TAS Gorn with fly-like eyes.

Haven't those also been explained as goggles/tech?

The brown 70s Mego Gorn.

The toys are canon now?

ENT Gorn with reptilian eyes.

Or Gorn without goggles on...?

And the tailed Gorn of the Kelvinverse computer games (explained as originally coming from a different universe).

Do alternate universe Gorn in an already divergent timeline count as a "subspecies"?

Does any one remember what the Gorn looked like in Lower Decks?
 
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