Personally, I find the idea of striving for perfection far more of an interesting and relatable story than actually being perfect.
But I don’t think we’re going to agree on this.
Does anyone else dislike Raffi?
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Personally, I find the idea of striving for perfection far more of an interesting and relatable story than actually being perfect.
But I don’t think we’re going to agree on this.
He didn’t believe Starfleet would accept his resignation, as it was a ploy to get them to accept his idea to use mothballed ships after the rescue fleet was destroyed. The fact that Starfleet accepted his resignation shows that they indeed ousted him.
Still he handed in his resignation and they accepted. That's different then Picard being drummed out of starfleet.
That would be why Picard and Scotty would trash it.
"Who drinks alcohol FOR THE TASTE?" is something I imagine Scotty would say it.
You would drink it to get drunk.
That wasn't 'perfect' behaviour by any stretch of the word - yet another one of those mythos which seem to persist among people.
Perfection as a concept is nonsensical and doesn't exist... similar to the word 'utopia'... the very notion is nonsense.
What you saw was simply speaking FAR BETTER behavior and environment compared to what we have today, but it wasn't perfect.
To someone from 100 or 200 years ago, what we have today would seem like 'utopia' (except we know its not).
Let me put it another way.
We have had solutions to ALL our issues (or at least 95% of them) for the past century, but never really made a proper effort into utilizing them.
What do you think would have happened if we HAD?
Well lets see, life would certain change as we know it... it wouldn't be the same... problems would still exist, except they would be problems of a different kind (such as how to further improve quality of life for everyone on the planet while simultaneously reducing our footprint on it and improving the biosphere... or, finding the most effcient method to colonize the Moon, and Mars... or the most efficient method to create a Dyson Swarm... self improvement, etc.)
Solving the problems of today doesn't mean you created utopia or perfection... it just means we actually learned from our mistakes and created a BETTER system/environment that works for everyone.
That depends. I'm trying to provide you with a reasoable explanation as to why things are the way they are. You also have the ability to research this on your own.
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So? Who cares? Either way he and Raffi were out of Starfleet. Your point was that Raffi wasn’t as good an officer as Riker, and I have yet to see any proof from you backing up that statement.
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Drinking alcohol to get drunk is idiotic. No offense, but it is.
You end up losing control over your own actions (and in some cases bodily functions).
Its not funny, its damaging to your own body (you are effectively abusing yourself like that).
People who associate getting drunk as 'fun' only do so because they live in cultures which taught them that this is the correct way to enjoy life (its not).
One of the primary reasons people were taught to think like that is because we live in a world which is run by accumulation of profits and greed (nothing to do with humans as such, but more with the socio-economic system that generates this behavior).
Alcohol is a huge business (in case you hadn't noticed).
And thinking one can only have fun if they are drunk is from my perspective extremely sad and a clear indicator that they DON'T like life in general (which is not surprising considering how DEPRESSING and DOWNGRADING the system/environment we live in is).
Alcohol is actually classified as a drug. Additctive behavior and abuse of drugs exists because of bad environments in which we live in that drive people to behave like that. Drugs are used as a method to ESCAPE reality as we know it (because it becomes unbearable to live in). And since we created a PARTICULARYL BAD environment to live in (c[r]apitalism), its no wonder people use drugs to escape it.
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Indeed. And often ignore basic human needs in the name of "evolving" humanity. I think humans can get better but it's not because of Star Trek.
Which is definitely how I feel about it as a teetotaller.
My wife just stares at me, rolls her eyes, and shakes her head.
That means I like her, the writing is spot on with a starfleet officer.
I drank quite a bit during the pandemic. It was an easy out with all the stress of raising a 1-2 year old and not being able to do shit really to protect him. My wife is pregnant with our second. She’s stopped so I’ve largely stopped as well. But there are still days I go for a glass of wine.
I only drank a glass of bear or wine once a week before and after I turned 18... but was never really drawn to alcohol because I noticed just how bad can people get when they get drunk.
After I had a massive weight loss 19 years ago, I hadn't touched alcohol since (because its nothing more than empty calories). I have used it on very rare occasions in small quantities for cooking (in which case the alcohol just evaporates so you can't get drunk on that - effectively just to get a bit more flavour into the food), but otherwise, I drink water and tea for liquids.
Going to bars and pubs and drinking in general is not something I associate with 'having a good time' or beneficial... its also a massive waste of money.
After I had a massive weight loss 19 years ago, I hadn't touched alcohol since (because its nothing more than empty calories). I have used it on very rare occasions in small quantities for cooking (in which case the alcohol just evaporates so you can't get drunk on that - effectively just to get a bit more flavour into the food), but otherwise, I drink water and tea for liquids.
Going to bars and pubs and drinking in general is not something I associate with 'having a good time' or beneficial... its also a massive waste of money.
Whilst I disagree with some of what you say, I can't argue with the waste of money line!
You are right also that conflating being drunk with having a good time is a societal/cultural thing that is imprinted.
I have both been a heavy drinker and abstemious at various points and I have found I can enjoy myself when out both ways but often people ask "how can you enjoy yourself" or say "they couldn't do that" about going out sober.
I would say that getting on the beers, and getting drunk off it, isn't to be dismissed and can definitely be fun but in the same way you wouldn't eat 3 currys, 4 pizzas, and nail a few cheese burgers on the swift that drinking to excess isn't great. Moderation though and it is all good fun
Nope.
Trolling again? Your little vacation from the forum didn't help?
Seems plenty agree so I'm not sure how it's Trolling, unless that just means having a different opinion now. Anyway on block you go, ever growing list - seems theres another one commenting in here too - as I'm keeping seeing what looks like replies to stuff I can't see.
If by 'plenty,' you mean one guy whose actions since joining this board have been highly suspect as it is, then yes, it's plenty all right.
Posting that you are putting people on your ignore list is a no-no. First, none of us care, and second, it's bad BBS form. But based on your posting history, I doubt you'll be here long enough for any of that to matter.
Well the poster is being given a second chance. I would say let him prove himself. The thread is interesting enough. As long as the debate doesn't degrade into name calling and such.
I have all the proof I need. But I'm just another random dude with no power.
Yes, in spite of the insipid opening post, it is indeed.
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