Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

[Alexander Corrino]

I still hope the last two seasons will end up being Picard realizing he never actually woke up from dying, and this has all been his personal journey through a form of purgatory to his ascension to a higher form of being.

I’m getting “Bobby Ewing under the shower on the island from LOST” vibes from this

But yeah I’d actually be down for something like this. Add Q to the mix and it would even make sense as a “final test if you’re worthy of becoming a Q, sorry for the hassle, mon capitaine, we had to raise our qualification requirements quite a bit after that Riker incident back in the day”.

 

[PicardHitbyTesla]

I’m getting “Bobby Ewing under the shower on the island from LOST” vibes from this

But yeah I’d actually be down for something like this. Add Q to the mix and it would even make sense as a “final test if you’re worthy of becoming a Q, sorry for the hassle, mon capitaine, we had to raise our qualification requirements quite a bit after that Riker incident back in the day”.

""The Dream Season" is a common nickname for the 9th season of Dallas, which ended with Bobby Ewing's return and the reveal that his death and all the events"""

It's ranked as the second worst TV trope after having your main character jump a shark in a jet ski to drum up ratings.


That's why it's exactly how the season will end.

 

[Alexander Corrino]

I’m a massive Dallas fan. And I love the Dream Season. And I wish they’d never brought Bobby back because I liked the show without him because it gave Pam a chance to actually become her own character instead of being mostly “Bobby Ewing’s wife”. However, the scene has led to some quite fascinating alternate reality theories and discussions. There are two timelines on Dallas, one where Bobby dies and one where he didn’t. This is most notably due to the fact that they kinda forgot to tell the Knots Landing (the show’s spin-off) writers that Bobby was coming back, so, he remained dead on that show. I find this… intriguing?

But - this is Star Trek, not Dallas. Trek’s business IS alternate realities, timelines, things that happen that actually DIDN’T happen, etc. In fact, of the most famous and fan favorite TNG episodes literally has half a life happening for a character and it’s not even real (except to him). The whole thing is a trope Trek has used before. And they planned on using another variation of it on that DS9 episode… what was it called? “Far Beyond The Stars”?

tl;dr: Star Trek is no stranger to variations of the “Bobby Ewing under the shower” trope. It’s just that, with this PIC purgatory idea, it would on a much bigger scale. But the trope itself? It’s a basic building block of quite a few Trek episodes.

 

[PicardHitbyTesla]

I’m a massive Dallas fan. And I love the Dream Season. And I wish they’d never brought Bobby back because I liked the show without him because it gave Pam a chance to actually become her own character instead of being mostly “Bobby Ewing’s wife”. However, the scene has led to some quite fascinating alternate reality theories and discussions. There are two timelines on Dallas, one where Bobby dies and one where he didn’t. This is most notably due to the fact that they kinda forgot to tell the Knots Landing (the show’s spin-off) writers that Bobby was coming back, so, he remained dead on that show. I find this… intriguing?

But - this is Star Trek, not Dallas. Trek’s business IS alternate realities, timelines, things that happen that actually DIDN’T happen, etc. In fact, of the most famous and fan favorite TNG episodes literally has half a life happening for a character and it’s not even real (except to him). The whole thing is a trope Trek has used before. And they planned on using another variation of it on that DS9 episode… what was it called? “Far Beyond The Stars”?

tl;dr: Star Trek is no stranger to variations of the “Bobby Ewing under the shower” trope. It’s just that, with this PIC purgatory idea, it would on a much bigger scale. But the trope itself? It’s a basic building block of quite a few Trek episodes.

I'll take anything that says, seven of nine saying

"It's ok to kill them they aren't human anymore they are borg"

Was just a bad q dream.

 

[Danja]

I'll take anything that says, seven of nine saying

"It's ok to kill them they aren't human anymore they are borg"

Was just a bad q dream.

Mother Teresa, Seven is not.

 

[timtonruben359]

Raffi? Riker? Worf? Geordi? Beverly? Deanna?

Okay, probably not Deanna. (Just because she’s not been in uniform for awhile from the last we knew.)

It’s a bit of a stretch but they’ve brought it up: Seven?

My money is Seven being captain and Raffi being the first officer which would explain their presence in season 3...if Rios isn't there.

I don't think it'll be a TNG legacy character in command. We know Deanna and Riker are effectively "retired" but maybe after his temporary command in the season one finale, Riker is now back in space full-time. LeVar has strongly hinted he wanted his character to be an instructor at the academy. Worf (if the novels will still be considered canon) may have commanded the Enterprise-E so I'm guessing he's either a captain or admiral. I think Beverly is going to be an Admiral (and maybe there is a twist and Beverly moved out of the medical field because Matalas has suggested she has a key role in the season).

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

It'd be nice to see Seven as a Starfleet captain, but she's not Starfleet so I don't see how that could work. Unless the Fenris Rangers are absorbed into Starfleet and they decide to give her a rank high enough to sit in the chair. Or she steals the ship.

 

[PicardHitbyTesla]

Mother Teresa, Seven is not.

It's ok to kill the borg they aren't human?!?!

Come on people that's not even a hater nitpick, seven said that

 

[Mage]

I'm really still only watching this to see how it ends. The first three episodes had me hooked badly and I loved them. It just went kinda down hill from there for me.
The characters I still enjoy, the performances are good. But the story..... It feels like it's going nowhere.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Watched Episode 8, Broken Pieces.

I'm not sure if this was always a thing but when Picard is eating eggs with Soji, there's some definite 'classic' Star Trek sound effects going on in the background, then later when Picard is talking to Jurati in Sickbay, similarly there's some classic callback sounds. Maybe it's always been a thing and I only picked up on it now.

Having all the Rios holos gather in a room is good. Getting the cube fired up is cool as well. The season long story started to move on a bit and on to the last two.

Oh... flushing out the Borg into vacuum en masse was a real nasty/cool moment. Ouch. What a thing to do. Cold as ice.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I loved all the scenes with the holos in that episode, Santiago Cabrera really knocked it out of the park.

 

[Danja]

My money is Seven being captain and Raffi being the first officer which would explain their presence in season 3...if Rios isn't there.

I don't think it'll be a TNG legacy character in command. We know Deanna and Riker are effectively "retired" but maybe after his temporary command in the season one finale, Riker is now back in space full-time.

If Deanna and Will run off on an adventure, who's going to take care of Kestra?

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I loved all the scenes with the holos in that episode, Santiago Cabrera really knocked it out of the park.

Very cool and a neat payoff. Rios is a good character.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

If Deanna and Will run off on an adventure, who's going to take care of Kestra?

She'd run off with them! We need all the Troi-Rikers.

 

[Tosk]

Just a thought regarding the finale...IF we don't hit the reset button, and the characters get back to the future themselves, then whoever decided to kill Elnor really dropped the ball. If you kill off a main character right in the middle of a time travel romp, the viewer just naturally assumes it won't stick. So it's dramatically a big mistake, because many of us did not have an emotional reaction to him kicking off. And if there's no reset then we'll have two dead characters replaced by technology that have copies of their memories. Maybe Picard and Elnor can bond over being dupes.

 

[PicardHitbyTesla]

Just a thought regarding the finale...IF we don't hit the reset button, and the characters get back to the future themselves, then whoever decided to kill Elnor really dropped the ball. If you kill off a main character right in the middle of a time travel romp, the viewer just naturally assumes it won't stick. So it's dramatically a big mistake, because many of us did not have an emotional reaction to him kicking off. And if there's no reset then we'll have two dead characters replaced by technology that have copies of their memories. Maybe Picard and Elnor can bond over being dupes.

His bodies on ice headed to the dead quadrant.

My guess is q snaps his fingers and the whole thing was a dream

 

[Tosk]

My guess is q snaps his fingers and the whole thing was a dream

Certainly what most assumed at the outset. I'm not so sure any more.

 

[Charles Phipps]

His bodies on ice headed to the dead quadrant.

My guess is q snaps his fingers and the whole thing was a dream

I'm really hoping it ends with Rios staying in the past and Jurati as the Borg Queen.

And then we have Rios as Captain of the Stargazer and Jurati onboard.

And then we can have Picard explain. "Oh...uh...about your doppelgangers."

 

[PicardHitbyTesla]

I'm really hoping it ends with Rios staying in the past and Jurati as the Borg Queen.

And then we have Rios as Captain of the Stargazer and Jurati onboard.

And then we can have Picard explain. "Oh...uh...about your doppelgangers."

You gotta think outside the box, my monet is on picards mom being under the mask.


They both said look up

 

[The Wormhole]

They're using all the sets they built for it at least. Drexler posted a photo from Season 3 filming on the bridge on his Facebook page.

He had to blur one of the tactical station screens because it had a ship shaped spoiler on it.

Spoiler: About that

I thought someone already leaked that the Stargazer bridge sets were being used for the Enterprise E or F in season 3, and that's the reason why those screens were blurred?