Spoilers The Flash - Season 8 Discussion Thread
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I'm still watching Arrow.. And there are all these episode's where LiIla is pretending that she doesn't have superpowers and has to be saved, even if she opened up about bieng a multiversal teleporter, she could just not avoid certain death but save the ever living day.
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She doesn't get those powers until shortly before the crossover episode. She wasn't hiding them.
It was the planet the Monitor came from. Supergirl and Lex went there.
A pretty solid ending to the Deathstorm arc, even though it was basically a bottle episode. The writing is definitely better this season than it's been for a while, doing pretty nice character work.
Frost turning into Hellfrost was cool (no pun intended). Very goth. But I still wonder how these physical transformations of her body manage to change the color of her lipstick and eye shadow in the process.
The ending was quite unexpected, though. I thought that maybe absorbing Deathstorm would turn Frost evil again or something, but not this.
I wonder what's going on with Candice Patton. They seem to have written this whole time-sickness arc specifically to isolate her from most of the rest of the cast. And in the tag scene where Iris was supposedly there with the group, we only saw her from the back in the group shots, suggesting it was a double, while Patton only appeared in single shots or with Grant Gustin, like she was filmed separately. My first thought is something COVID-related, but why is she the only one to be isolated, and why for so long?
Frost turning into Hellfrost was cool (no pun intended). Very goth. But I still wonder how these physical transformations of her body manage to change the color of her lipstick and eye shadow in the process.
The ending was quite unexpected, though. I thought that maybe absorbing Deathstorm would turn Frost evil again or something, but not this.
I wonder what's going on with Candice Patton. They seem to have written this whole time-sickness arc specifically to isolate her from most of the rest of the cast. And in the tag scene where Iris was supposedly there with the group, we only saw her from the back in the group shots, suggesting it was a double, while Patton only appeared in single shots or with Grant Gustin, like she was filmed separately. My first thought is something COVID-related, but why is she the only one to be isolated, and why for so long?
Biggest sign of how much better the writing here was characters that seemed one dimensional before actually feel like real people. Chester, Allegra, and Mark/ Chillblaine. Showed they are much better actors but were given weak material before this. When characters just make jokey quips or relay techno jargon they are not characters at all.
In the time loop episode we saw her teleporting. The next episode the weapon on the island upgrades lila in some way, where she claims to now be a harbinger... Even though that's been her ARGUS callsign all along.
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Poor Mark. 
It was a decent episode but it wasn't Buffy's "The Body" or DS9's "The Visitor". Actually I thought the first half of this episode was kind of boring, especially the Chester and Allegra parts. I have wanted more Berry and Caitlin scenes and the one in the apartment was great. However I don't know if I'm a fan of Mad Scientist Caitlin trying to bring Frost back. It cheapens the impact of this episode a lot and I have a bad feeling about it.
As for Iris and the time sickness, I love that the writers just forgot about it for two episodes. What was she doing back in Central City anyway and will we ever find out where the Mom went?
It looks like X-cess reappears next week. Please follow up on the back from break episode. I want to see that one girl again.
As for Iris and the time sickness, I love that the writers just forgot about it for two episodes. What was she doing back in Central City anyway and will we ever find out where the Mom went?
It looks like X-cess reappears next week. Please follow up on the back from break episode. I want to see that one girl again.
Another well-written, potent episode, although clearly shaped by COVID and the need to limit large gatherings. There were a few scenes where Candice Patton was actually in the same room with everyone else for a change, but not many. But focusing on team members individually was a good way to do a strongly character-driven story. There were some impressive moments. "The voice that made me whole." Wow.
Could anyone make out the crossed-off items on Barry's to-do list? Anyway, Kramer should've disqualified him from the hot dog-eating contest, because his Flash metabolism gives him an unfair advantage.
Weird to see Allegra and Cecile fighting a bad guy in their street clothes. I hope that Taylor's question to Iris at the end about probing into their identities will lead to them finally adopting costumes and code names.
Surprising that the guy in the knockoff Iron Man suit turned out to be Mark Desmond/Blockbuster. That's quite a reinterpretation of Blockbuster, who's pretty much a Hulk-type character in the comics.
Could anyone make out the crossed-off items on Barry's to-do list? Anyway, Kramer should've disqualified him from the hot dog-eating contest, because his Flash metabolism gives him an unfair advantage.
Weird to see Allegra and Cecile fighting a bad guy in their street clothes. I hope that Taylor's question to Iris at the end about probing into their identities will lead to them finally adopting costumes and code names.
Surprising that the guy in the knockoff Iron Man suit turned out to be Mark Desmond/Blockbuster. That's quite a reinterpretation of Blockbuster, who's pretty much a Hulk-type character in the comics.
"Funeral for a friend" was very effective at the emotion of the moment. I really felt the loss the characters were feeling. I got teary eyed a couple times, especially Caitlin's eulogy. And the episode did do a good job of focusing on each main character and how they were coping. It was also an interesting choice to skip the final battle with Blockbuster so that the focus could stay on the characters and their grief. Other episodes have finished with a big action scene.
The last scene is interesting. It looks like Caitlin wants to clone Frost. I wonder if they will bring Frost back that way. But, I imagine, in true comic book fashion, something will go wrong. Will clone Frost be evil and we get a more villainous Killer Frost? Or will something happen that turns Caitlin into Killer Frost?
The last scene is interesting. It looks like Caitlin wants to clone Frost. I wonder if they will bring Frost back that way. But, I imagine, in true comic book fashion, something will go wrong. Will clone Frost be evil and we get a more villainous Killer Frost? Or will something happen that turns Caitlin into Killer Frost?
Laughed my ass off watching this...
During the adventures of Arrow on Earth 1, Earth 2 was destroyed on the road to Crisis.
Earth One was also destroyed midCrisis.
Oliver Queen creates a new multiverse.
16 billion years later, Oliver's dead hand, inserts the memories and personalities of the Earth One Paragons (and Lena Luthor) into their Earth Prime Doppelgangers, thus murdering their Earth Prime Doppelgangers.
Only Lex Luthor and Lillian Luthor totally verbalized this, every other idiot "hero" keeps staying that their memories have been restored and they are now their true selves, because they are dummies unaware that they are murderous parasites.
There is a new Earth Two.
Star Girl lives there.
Earth Prime experienced Crisis without the multiverse dying, but it screwed up interdimensional travel and changed the rules so that doppelgangers cannot co-exist on the same world now.
Black Siren on Earth Prime should be from the new earth two, but they gave her the memories of the previous Black Siren on Earth One, so she is confused and thinks that she is from both earth twos, but the Earth One memories are dominant.
It's an invasion.
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It was a decent episode, but nothing really happened, did it? Mark and Caitlin are in the same position they were in last week, and Berry and Nora took a trip to the still force and got a feeling about Iris. I guess we found out the mother is still alive, and the brush is intact, but honestly I'm a little confused by all these forces. They were talking about past, preasent, and future, yet I thought the speed force was also that way, which was why Nora and Berry are able to travel through time. I guess the Still Force is them all converging in one area? Like I said, that whole thing was a little confusing to me, and Deon turning bad (Did he turn bad?) was an ok twist. I still don't like Chester and some of his dialogue is corny.
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