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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

USS Firefly said:
Elizabeth who? ;)

I love Cassidy Freeman in Smallville (she could display a lot emotions in her facial expressions) I think she is a good actress so why not.
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I heard a rumor that the actress who played Luv in Blade Runner 2049 was up for the Mera role. Wonder how that would've gone.
 
She could have probably done a good job, but at this point all I can see when it comes to her is Queen Kane from See.
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USS Firefly said:
Elizabeth who? ;)

I love Cassidy Freeman in Smallville (she could display a lot emotions in her facial expressions) I think she is a good actress so why not.
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She was even better on Longmire.
 
Morpheus 02 said:
Sure, you can have believeable relationships on screen while not having it off screen.... but if you are doing an ongoing franschise, or heck, ANYTHING long term... MANY effective teams have a kinship way beyond just the job.
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I will give you another example: it is well known that on the 1966-68 Batman TV series, Neil Hamilton (Commissioner Gordon) did not get along with Stafford Repp (Chief O'Hara) off-set due to the former disliking Repp's exaggerated performances, but once the cameras were rolling, they played their parts with no one questioning if the characters' particular relationship worked. They were actors, and once on set, they knew what they had to do.


With the DC Film Universe, fully 1/2 of the Justice League is basically out of it... Ben Affleck is dealing with his personal issues (which led to the Reeves one rather than an Affleck-directed one), Fisher has burned bridges so that the Cyborg solo movie will never happen (or basically happned within the 4 hour movie), and even after the Flash movie... will Miller be able to stay?
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In Affleck's case, he's in the Flash movie, and has stated it was supposed to be his last appearance, but the grain-of-salt-required rumor mill suggests he might be interested in another turn as Batman. Who knows.

Fisher was the victim in his case, and stood his justified ground, so in the wake of his being removed from the WB productions, its WB that has the appearance of mistreating the injured party. ...and you're right, Cyborg did receive his spotlight in the Snyder Cut, so at least for Fisher, his work with the character / good screen time is not lost or in the "what if?" category.

We're not quite sure what is going on with Cavill (who was well cast, but poorly written)... Momoa is busy with many projects, but i am sure is fine with being Aquaman independent of Justice League (though happy to do a Peacemaker cameo) , as is Gal Gadot.
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Cavill's Superman story was handled well, particularly for a film set in this period of time.
 
Wow, that's surprising if true. I mean, they just announced the casting for the two leads a week or two ago. Maybe Discovery is coming in and flexing its muscles right away, which could be a good thing, if anybody there actually has a plan for what the company wants to accomplish with DC. Most importantly from my perspective, there was the recent report that revitalizing Superman was a priority.
 
StCoop said:
Wonder Twins powers activate! Form of Cancelled Movie!

https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/report-warner-bros-discovery-cancels-the-wonder-twins-film/
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The Realist said:
Wow, that's surprising if true. I mean, they just announced the casting for the two leads a week or two ago. Maybe Discovery is coming in and flexing its muscles right away, which could be a good thing, if anybody there actually has a plan for what the company wants to accomplish with DC. Most importantly from my perspective, there was the recent report that revitalizing Superman was a priority.
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I don't know, it seems kind of odd that they'd make the big casting announcement and then cancel it a few days later.
On the other hand, Discovery did just come in and big shifts like this are to be expected. If this is true, I wonder if this, and the cancellations of Legends of Tomorrow and Batwoman could be seen as a sign that they're going to be scaling back their number of DC productions.
 
StCoop said:
Wonder Twins powers activate! Form of Cancelled Movie!

https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/report-warner-bros-discovery-cancels-the-wonder-twins-film/
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JD said:
I don't know, it seems kind of odd that they'd make the big casting announcement and then cancel it a few days later.
On the other hand, Discovery did just come in and big shifts like this are to be expected. If this is true, I wonder if this, and the cancellations of Legends of Tomorrow and Batwoman could be seen as a sign that they're going to be scaling back their number of DC productions.
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Corroboration is important, but one look at how the "new owners" pulled the plug on a massive streaming effort by CNN just one MONTH after it had gone live (and after it had recruited fairly serious talent from other networks) suggests this kind of "don't care if it was just announced" type of releases won't be unusual over the next little while.
 
Just wait until Aquaman is working with a crabbing vessel and Wonder Woman has to survive the jungle while being naked and afraid.
 
JD said:
I don't know, it seems kind of odd that they'd make the big casting announcement and then cancel it a few days later.
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Perhaps they reconsidered the wisdom in making a Wonder Twins anything. Despite other version of the characters appearing in more recent times, its still heavily associated with a 1970s cartoon and whatever part of that generation who watched it. Of all DC properties one could adapt from that deep catalog, one has to question the sense behind choosing the Wonder Twins.

On the other hand, Discovery did just come in and big shifts like this are to be expected. If this is true, I wonder if this, and the cancellations of Legends of Tomorrow and Batwoman could be seen as a sign that they're going to be scaling back their number of DC productions.
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Or they might see the light with the kind of adaptations and talent involved, since LoT and BW were never examples of DC adaptations at their finest.
 
TREK_GOD_1 said:
Perhaps they reconsidered the wisdom in making a Wonder Twins anything. Despite other version of the characters appearing in more recent times, its still heavily associated with a 1970s cartoon and whatever part of that generation who watched it. Of all DC properties one could adapt from that deep catalog, one has to question the sense behind choosing the Wonder Twins.
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Aquaman was stained by his cartoon appearances and reputation that resulted from that but seems to be doing just fine. Not that the demographic studios markets to these days remembers that (it's not us oldies they're trying to attract anymore). We're talking 40 years here.

Any character can move away from the past and be successful with the right creative team (Batman 66 to Batman 89 and beyond, anyone?). If Aquaman and a movie about a talking Raccoon can be successful, Wonder Twins could be just as easily.
 
M'rk son of Mogh said:
Aquaman was stained by his cartoon appearances and reputation that resulted from that...
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Not exactly. Aquaman's portrayal in '60s and '70s cartoons was no better or worse than how any other superheroes were portrayed in the same medium. But there were a couple of Cartoon Network short segments made a couple of decades later that made a joke out of Aquaman being lame in Super Friends ("My power to talk to fish is useless!"), and they "went viral," as they say today, and became an instance of the phenomenon where people mistake the parody of a thing for the reality (as with people assuming that President Ford was really as clumsy as Chevy Chase portrayed him on Saturday Night Live, or assuming that Carl Sagan actually said "billyuns and billyuns" all the time). So the "Aquaman is lame" meme was a (relatively) modern invention that people back-projected and assumed had always been the case.
 
Christopher said:
Not exactly. Aquaman's portrayal in '60s and '70s cartoons was no better or worse than how any other superheroes were portrayed in the same medium. But there were a couple of Cartoon Network short segments made a couple of decades later that made a joke out of Aquaman being lame in Super Friends ("My power to talk to fish is useless!"), and they "went viral," as they say today, and became an instance of the phenomenon where people mistake the parody of a thing for the reality (as with people assuming that President Ford was really as clumsy as Chevy Chase portrayed him on Saturday Night Live, or assuming that Carl Sagan actually said "billyuns and billyuns" all the time). So the "Aquaman is lame" meme was a (relatively) modern invention that people back-projected and assumed had always been the case.
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Ah, good point, which actually supports the idea that the association with the cartoon would be even less of an issue for Wonder Twins than Aquaman.
 
The earliest pop culture mention of Aquaman being lame that I'm aware of was the superfriends sketch on The State from 1994.
 
M'rk son of Mogh said:
Ah, good point, which actually supports the idea that the association with the cartoon would be even less of an issue for Wonder Twins than Aquaman.
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I don't agree. After all, Aquaman has a long history in the comics, but the WT were invented for Super Friends. Their association is pretty much exclusively with the cartoon. And let's face it, it wasn't a great cartoon. I grew up watching Super Friends in first run, and I definitely think the Wonder Twins are lame.

My point, which I should've made clearer, is not that Super Friends' Aquaman wasn't lame. My point is that everyone in Super Friends was lame. Even Batman was lame there. With other DC heroes, you can refer to their comics adventures and find better portrayals. Hell, Aquaman in the '40s was such a badass he literally threw polar bears at bad guys. But the Twins are nearly exclusive to the cartoon, aside from homages in things like Smallville.
 
Christopher said:
I don't agree. After all, Aquaman has a long history in the comics, but the WT were invented for Super Friends. Their association is pretty much exclusively with the cartoon. And let's face it, it wasn't a great cartoon. I grew up watching Super Friends in first run, and I definitely think the Wonder Twins are lame.
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Do you think there's no story to tell that could fix how they're viewed? Especially since they're going to be brand spankin' new to the people that matter anyways.
 
M'rk son of Mogh said:
Do you think there's no story to tell that could fix how they're viewed? Especially since they're going to be brand spankin' new to the people that matter anyways.
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I didn't say that. I just said I don't think an analogy to Aquaman holds, for the reasons I gave. The "Aquaman is lame" meme is a '90s joke that people mistook for reality. The Wonder Twins' perception as schlocky dates back to their origin.
 
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(But Jason Momoa's Aquaman rocks. :techman:)
 
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