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Interestingly I've noticed that the Eaglemoss Beyond model is slightly inaccurate – the phasers were changed too, with the number of turrets on top and below the saucer being doubled:
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Interestingly I've noticed that the Eaglemoss Beyond model is slightly inaccurate – the phasers were changed too, with the number of turrets on top and below the saucer being doubled:
I think because I watched the Kelvin movies back to back then I just didn't notice, but blimey there are big differences.
I quite like the Kelvin Enterprise in all it's forms. It's not my favourite, but I don't hate it.
Controversial: I prefer Kelvin Enterprise designs to the 1701-D. I have never ever truly loved the D.
I quite like the Kelvin Enterprise in all it's forms. It's not my favourite, but I don't hate it.
Controversial: I prefer Kelvin Enterprise designs to the 1701-D. I have never ever truly loved the D.
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I have spent years thinking the Enterprise-D was the ungainly and frumpy one of the lineage, but in the last couple of years there's been a sudden upswing in videos and images portraying it in a much more flattering manner, without it being quite so static and flatly lit. Which leads me to believe that perhaps it was maybe just a limitation of the original physical filming models... she certainly looks much better in Generations than she did in most of TNG.
Interestingly I've noticed that the Eaglemoss Beyond model is slightly inaccurate – the phasers were changed too, with the number of turrets on top and below the saucer being doubled:
Perfect, thank you!
Welcome to the Galaxy Class is Great club.
I love a good family reunion photo.
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Welcome to the Galaxy Class is Great club.
I wouldn't say I was quite there yet... I'm just reappraising
Kind of. It's the same in Star Trek (2009) and Into Darkness up until it gets badly damaged by the Vengeance. At the end we see it after extensive repairs and it has some differences (much larger impulse engines, slightly different nacelle fins, possibly additional phaser turrets):
Apparently it had further refit work between Into Darkness and Beyond because it then changes significantly between those films. The neck is made much skinnier; the nacelle pylons are swept back; and the nacelles themselves are physically smaller. This picture of the Eaglemoss models shows the differences quite well.
My headcanon is that we might assume the refit we see at the end of Into Darkness is supposed to be the Enterprise as we see her in Beyond. We only get a glimpse anyway so it's easy to write off any discrepancies.
I think there is a garage kit of the pre-Beyond/postDarkness Enterprise out there…I saw it at Starship Modeler awhile back IIRC.
In my head canon, there is only one Galaxy class vessel, the USS Federation with Picard as Captain and Michael Dorn as Konom in The Undiscovered Country…with Kirk being a contemporary.
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I think it helps that Generations and the later series were able to go back to the 6 foot model's look instead of the 4' model that replaced it for a lot of TNG.
Personally the Enterprise D has always been one of my favourite Trek ships and I love how simple and graceful the lines are, without any unnecessary distracting details. It's a proper hero ship. I like the slightly busier ships like the Miranda class as well, but the Galaxy looks like they brought the Federation's top starship designer in and gave them the resources to create something really special.
Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
Giving the Kelvin Enterprise only 6x Pairs of Turrets on top after it got it's butt kicked by the USS Vengeance in the previous movie and outclassed by the Altamid Swarm just shows how naive StarFleet of that era and universe really is.
The Altamid Swarm made short work of the USS Enterprise, it needs FAR more Phaser Turrets than what it had to even remotely survive that kind of attack.
The Altamid Swarm made short work of the USS Enterprise, it needs FAR more Phaser Turrets than what it had to even remotely survive that kind of attack.
The far more primitive USS Franklin utterly trashed the drone swarm. They didn't need more guns, they needed to understand the problem.
It is a bit of a shame that the Enterprise looks so weak compared to the Vengeance though. It was supposed to be the newest top of the line badass flagship!
It is a bit of a shame that the Enterprise looks so weak compared to the Vengeance though. It was supposed to be the newest top of the line badass flagship!
I have spent years thinking the Enterprise-D was the ungainly and frumpy one of the lineage, but in the last couple of years there's been a sudden upswing in videos and images portraying it in a much more flattering manner, without it being quite so static and flatly lit. Which leads me to believe that perhaps it was maybe just a limitation of the original physical filming models... she certainly looks much better in Generations than she did in most of TNG.
For me, it's all about a lack of circles compared to a proliferation of ovals...
That was a built in flaw designed by the story writers to counter the auto piloting systems of the swarm.
I'm not banking on a "Design Flaw" of the enemy, I'm banking on a scenario with competent enemies that don't fly in formation and attack you from range with a giant swarm, but aren't afraid of Kamikaze attacking you and boarding your vessel should the need arise.
Don't count on incompetent bad guys, prepare for competent bad guys.
Swarm attacks are a legitimate threat IRL and the attack of the Drone Swarm is one of the scenarios the US military is figuring out a cost effective method to combat, especially given how drone swarms have affected recent modern battles.
Thank you. This slice of your reply made for some interesting Googling.
I I think I read of the Beyond Enterprise-A had phasers on the nacelles to prevent similar amputations. Even as far back as 09’ while there were big phaser turrets at the expected locations, I seem to remember little pairing on some of the hull plates that I also took to be point defense (Gatling/CIWS?) phasers.
Anyone but me remember that?
Anyone but me remember that?
Do you mean this scene?
From what I can tell, they're firing Phaser Bolts from the standard 3x Pairs of Phaser Turrets mounted on both the Dorsal & Ventral sides simultaneously.
That's 12x Ball Turrets in total or 6x Pairs firing in alternating fashion to give the perception of rapid fire.
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It is quite early 90s "melted blob" design, isn't it... almost ahead of the curve back in the late 80s on that score, but also very "I-don't-want-to-see-a-straight-line-or-flat-surface 90s family car". Then again the Enterprise-E is also full of ovals and elongated shapes, and when they tried to update the Galaxy-class aesthetics to match it with the Ross-class they got a Frankenstein abomination of a starship... I don't even know what the geomeric name for the shape of that deflector dish might be
Almost everything from the neck pylon down on that ship is wrong.
Notice the change between the A and B. My headcanon is, info from V'Ger led to that upgrade.
Now notice B and C. Another, even bigger jump in design. So I wonder, is that just more carryover from V'ger, or if some, as yet untold story, between them could someday be told to explain the advances seen.
Wow. Is the saucer of the NX-01 larger than the saucer of the TOS-1701?!? Dayum.I love a good family reunion photo.
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