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Better Call Saul, the TV series

My thoughts of tonight's episode- Wine and Roses....

- Viagra ;lol: So a woman was living with Saul in that...obscene place.... The place they had together prior to this was lovely. I honestly would have loved that place

- I see that thing Kim took from her desk when she quit S&G...What the heck is that anyway :lol:

- Gee. Nacho brought up the old folks again (I made that comment when the finale first aired last season). He doesn't know them. For all he knows, they were worse than Lalo :lol:

- Wondering what's the proof.
 
The look from Hector reminded me of their final moments together in Breaking Bad. The handshake and quiet exchange communicated so much; the look on Gus's face as he read Hector's expression was priceless.

It looks as if Kim maybe the architect of the full Saul Goodman package.

The Golf Club scene was highly entertaining.

This is the only series which consistently exceeds my expectations. Fantastic start - both episodes.
 
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Finn said:
I see that thing Kim took from her desk when she quit S&G...What the heck is that anyway :lol:
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It's the bottle stopper from a very expensive tequila bottle. They stuck that guy at the bar with the tab one night. Later they bought another bottle, and drank it the night Chuck killed himself.

Season 6 premiere was pretty good. I thought Nacho was dead for sure. :crazy:

I don't particularly like the whole "Fuck with Howard" storyline. The punishment doesn't seem to fit the crime, so to speak. Then again, I suppose that's the point, especially when it comes to Kim.

Jimmy let slip "Lalo" to the DA. That's probably going to come back and haunt him.
 
I watched the second episode this morning.

Yeah, the handshake was magnificent.

I guess Saul will screw over the Kettlemans again and acquire Lady Liberty.

Also, I kept thinking about the Saul House. The exterior looks like it might be in the same neighborhood as Chuck's place.
 
The opening episode was fantastic. The whole saga with Nacho being on the run was very well done. Mike standing up to Gus on the Nacho’s father issue. Planting evidence in the safe that led Bolsa to where he was hiding.

Then Jimmy’s “Wolves and sheep” callback, where he notes that he’s the one acting like his naive father and then Kim just straight up guessed the Kettelmans were defrauding their clients. The Kettelmans are still pathetically entitled there, “Our lives are so horrible. Our kids go to a public school!!” Then blaming Jimmy and Kim for their misfortune when they are literally the only reasons Craig even got out before he was 60.

Jimmy letting Lalo slip was one thing. But also the fact that Kevin saw him at the country club could easily get to Howard or Cliff and then they’ll connect the dots immediately.

I knew Saul was successful in the Breaking Bad timeline but didn’t know he was successful enough for a house like that. You wonder what still happens between now and then to transform him into a man who would suggest a prison shanking.
 
1001001 said:
It's the bottle stopper from a very expensive tequila bottle. They stuck that guy at the bar with the tab one night. Later they bought another bottle, and drank it the night Chuck killed himself.

Season 6 premiere was pretty good. I thought Nacho was dead for sure. :crazy:

I don't particularly like the whole "Fuck with Howard" storyline. The punishment doesn't seem to fit the crime, so to speak. Then again, I suppose that's the point, especially when it comes to Kim.

Jimmy let slip "Lalo" to the DA. That's probably going to come back and haunt him.
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Their motivation isn’t strictly to punish him. They want to settle Sandpiper so Jimmy can get his seven figure pay day and Kim won’t need an income. They just see tainting Howard’s rep as the best way to do that. And Howard as the most deserving target because of how much Kim hated his pompous attempt to set her straight about Jimmy.
 
Mmm. I wonder if Kim would be in jail…during the time of Breaking Bad…

She’d be the breadwinner…
 
There’s also the possibility Kim will swing back to the Lawful Good alignment.

A lot of Kim’s transformation over the last season seemed to tie back to that one scene where her alcoholic mother is late to pick her up. She has a deeply ingrained revulsion to people abusing the power they have over others. But she still has a deep sense of Justice and I’m not sure how she’d handle it if she found her extralegal actions caused someone to get badly hurt.

Chuck, Howard, Richard, Kevin, all different alcoholic moms demanding she get into the car.
 
As for a third story in the universe, I’m not sure what characters are left who either survived Breaking Bad or have unexplored periods in their life and are also interesting enough to want to tell it.

Unless they did a story of Jesse’s new life in Alaska, trying to start by a family and life a normal life, but being in fear of getting caught. Or there is miniseries material In Fring’s distant past.

Maybe Pete and Badger trying to get their shit together would make a good show.
 
Another stray observation: the always fastidious Gus knocking over the glass was a nice touch - really underscored how Hector rattled him.
 
Gods damn that handshake was amazing. Mark Margolis and Giancarlo Esposito convey so much with just their eyes but especially in that scene. Holy fuck.

And then Mike shows just how much of a cool customer he is when he goes to bat for Nacho even when staring down a barrel.

But that said, I don't get why he planted the Ocotillo number in the new safe. Or did he only do that under Gus' instruction?

StarMan said:
Another stray observation: the always fastidious Gus knocking over the glass was a nice touch - really underscored how Hector rattled him.
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Hell of an achievement to rattle Gus...and the result is just a broke glass. That just further underscores just how much Gus really lost his mind at Walt and Jesse that one time.

And that wasn't the only Breaking Bad flashback I had: Nacho rapidly backing up his truck towards the Salamanca twins instantly reminded me of their encounter with Hank. I'm still in shock Nacho escaped with no bullets in his head! :eek:
 
BTW, in the opening of the first episode we see lots of Saul's things getting packed up or thrown out. We see a shot of HG Wells The Time Machine book. Is that a reference to something? I'm sure it must be.
 
Only seen the first episode so far so haven't read all the posts above but that was amazing!

Poor Nacho, I can only hope either Mike's words to Gus had some effect (unlikely) or else Mike himself will intercede. I'm guessing the gun Nacho has is defective in some way?

Lalo's double was an interesting twist!

Yeah the fuck with Howard bit is interesting. Howard can be a dick sometimes but he's never come across like a completely horrible person (on a sliding scale of people in this show he's nearer the decent human being scale than most let's be honest, he had genuine affection for Kim and Chuck and he probably respects (or at least respected) Jimmy more than Chuck ever did!).

The house clearing at the start was interesting. Someone might correct me here but we never saw Saul's home life in Breaking Bad did we? I suppose it makes sense that he would be living a lavish lifestyle but it still seemed a little jarring in context of the Jimmy we know.
 
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BTW, in the opening of the first episode we see lots of Saul's things getting packed up or thrown out. We see a shot of HG Wells The Time Machine book. Is that a reference to something? I'm sure it must be.
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We see the same copy of that book on the nightstand on Saul's side of the bed in the second episode.
 
Howard is a pretty good guy by the standards of the BCS cast. He’s just got kind of a yuppie patriarchal worldview. Remember how at the start he kept punishing Kim for things beyond her control like the Kettelmans’ delusions of no consequences and Jimmy’s commercial, then didn’t even let her off when she landed Mesa Verde. He felt like career success was something that was his to give out at his generous discretion and even after all they went through, that Kim’s departure from Schwiker was some flight of romantic fancy, that Jimmy was dictating her career moves.

Was it Lalo in the car following Jimmy and Kim at the end? When he said proof does exist I thought he meant Nacho, but he could have figured out Jimmy was in on it too.

The reason they planted the hotel name in the safe is they want Nacho killed rather than alive to tell tales.
 
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