Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x07 - "Monsters"
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Well, by Picard he can apparently blow up other people's ships by himself too
But if we assume that Janeway had unilateral self destruct privileges because Voyager's original first officer was killed, then maybe Picard gained that with the Enterprise once Riker was scheduled to transfer to another ship. That's a bit of a stretch, I know; it's more likely it was a special dispensation from Starfleet Command due to being sent to Romulus, a sort of specific type of alert status to minimise the risk of the Enterprise being captured.
EDIT: It just occurred to me that maybe self destruct only requires multiple command authorisations in the alpha quadrant and associated Federation territories, and outside of those borders a ship automatically switches to an alternate security mode to protect Starfleet intelligence and technology falling into enemy hands... it would certainly explain why Janeway didn't need any other officers to co-authorise self destruct.
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Well, Worf was able to provide authorization in First Contact even though he wasn't a member of the crew.Well, by Picard he can apparently blow up other people's ships by himself too
Picard was an Admiral, maybe Flag officers have the authority.
I thought it was funny and sad that Picard was issued the command "Zero Zero Zero Zero, Zero Zero Zero Zero".
I can almost hear Starfleet saying, "Let's give the old boy something he can remember."
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Jeannie fan here.
I can almost hear Starfleet saying, "Let's give the old boy something he can remember."
I see your point.
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Jeannie fan here.
Perhaps Voyager was originally programmed to require Lt. Commander Cavit's authorization too when they left DS9 (which I would assume Starfleet Command authorizes who has the authority to trash one of their ships). But, he died. Tuvok, they didn't know the status of, so he could be dead for all Starfleet knew. The chief engineer died. Lt. Stadi died, the CMO died. The only other senior (
) officer (non-Maquis) left to give auto destruct codes to is Ensign Harold Kim.So, I don't really see it as too big of a stretch as to Janeway being the only person to authorize a self destruct.
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True – and there's reasonable explanations for that too, such as "commanders and above can co-issue a self-destruct command on a vessel they're currently aboard". Or that Picard at some point just reactivated his authorisation codes, knowing Riker would be down on the surface and might be out of communication and Data had been taken by the Borg, and we just didn't see it.
A perfectly reasonable suggestion.
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Perhaps Voyager was originally programmed to require Lt. Commander Cavit's authorization too when they left DS9 (which I would assume Starfleet Command authorizes who has the authority to trash one of their ships). But, he died. Tuvok, they didn't know the status of, so he could be dead for all Starfleet knew. The chief engineer died. Lt. Stadi died, the CMO died. The only other senior (
So, I don't really see it as too big of a stretch as to Janeway being the only person to authorize a self destruct.
Yep, precisely my point. It's unusual but it doesn't require an unbelievable mental contortion to justify, especially as Voyager presents Janeway as consistently being the only one to authorise self destruct. If they went back and forth on it with Chakotay being required sometimes but not others it would be much more difficult to explain away.
It was 'zero zero zero. Destruct. Zero'. Same as the final one in 'Let That Be Your Last Battlefield' and 'The Search For Spock'.
That's the problem with people who think they know everything. There are three more episodes to go and AS OF NOW, we don't know if he IS Lucene. Ignorance isn't bliss, it's ignorance.
It was a whole ball of ridiculousness. From sealing the moment in a bottle to Guinan having the bottle in the bar right then, after she had already closed it as seen previously. And it all was for naught anyway. The scene's only point was to show us that Q isn't well, which we already knew.
Who let Chabon back in?
I thought his magic wish-granting flute from S1 would be the end of it.
Have the hearing aid turned down during that scene? It was ZERO, ZERO, ZERO....DESTRUCT, ZERO
Tin Man definitely deserves its place on it. I don't actually recall Latent Image, so it probably belongs on it.
Both episodes are good. There.
Umm, I guess you don't realize that many producer positions these days are more honorary and for prestige than anything. It also allows the production company pay some people money but yet they don't really do anything for various reasons.
I didn't remember it exactly. All I remembered were the zeroes.
The color palette of the sets are quite similar. Ugh.I see your point.
I cannot begin to describe the fundamental immaturity of interpreting a creative decision made in the production of a multi-million dollar television program aimed at a mass audience for a growing streaming service envisioned to allow a large corporate conglomerate to compete with other large corporate conglomerates on a mass audience scale, as having been motivated by the desire to insult a small minority of fans of a TV show who have strong feelings about genre tropes.
Well, It is mostly wishfull yes, requiring every writer to see every episodes is probably asking too much, but for 8 million dollar per episodes they could at least have hired a consultant who does know all of Startrek, who could have helped the writers keep the script a least mostly consistent. I understand this is near impossible especialy with some of the TOS episodes but they could at least make character histories consistent. For that matter, why didn't Patrick Steward himself ensure his own family history was consistent, like mentioning his brother?