And Disco.
Section 31: I hope it still happens.
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And Disco.
But Disco isn't in the same era?
I'm really not trying to be thick headed or stubborn but I am just not following.
My point was that (I'm assuming) SNW and S31 are set/to be set around Disco's time period.
Ok, I got it. I just don't count Disco any more due to the time change. But, that's fair.
I am hoping Section 31 moves a little bit more forward in time.
As opposed to 3 24th Century air shows (Picard, Prodigy, and Lower Decks) currently airing? And all of these shows have been renewed for a yet to stream third season.Let's see ...
1, 2, 3 ... three Disco-era shows on at the same time.
What is wrong with this picture?
S31 would be better off as a movie. They're doing Mission: Impossible right now on Picard!
I also remind you that Star Trek Discovery itself is now in the 32nd century; and for two years there hasn't been a single 23rd century era show streaming on Paramount+.
So even if a 23rd Century based Section 31 show is produced and aired by next year, we'll have to shows set in the 23rd Century era; which would be the same amount of shows in 24th century after Picard's 3rd season finishes.
So yeah sorry if I don't see your analysis as correct. Assuming all the other shows get renewals after Picard ends, and we got a Section 31 series; we would have one 32nd Century show, through 24th/25th Century shows, and two 23rd Century air shows.
Looks pretty symmetric to me.
(And after seeing Michelle Yeoh's latest film: Everything Everywhere All At Once, I hope we're lucky enough to get a Star Trek series with her as the Headliner.)
As opposed to 3 24th Century air shows (Picard, Prodigy, and Lower Decks) currently airing? And all of these shows have been renewed for a yet to stream third season.
I also remind you that Star Trek Discovery itself is now in the 32nd century; and for two years there hasn't been a single 23rd century era show streaming on Paramount+.
So even if a 23rd Century based Section 31 show is produced and aired by next year, we'll have to shows set in the 23rd Century era; which would be the same amount of shows in 24th century after Picard's 3rd season finishes.
So yeah sorry if I don't see your analysis as correct. Assuming all the other shows get renewals after Picard ends, and we got a Section 31 series; we would have one 32nd Century show, through 24th/25th Century shows, and two 23rd Century air shows.
Looks pretty symmetric to me.
I should've clarified:
S1 Disco
Picard takes place twenty years after Prodigy and LD.
Do we count Short Treks, or is that show dead?As opposed to 3 24th Century air shows (Picard, Prodigy, and Lower Decks) currently airing? And all of these shows have been renewed for a yet to stream third season.
I also remind you that Star Trek Discovery itself is now in the 32nd century; and for two years there hasn't been a single 23rd century era show streaming on Paramount+.
So even if a 23rd Century based Section 31 show is produced and aired by next year, we'll have to shows set in the 23rd Century era; which would be the same amount of shows in 24th century after Picard's 3rd season finishes.
So yeah sorry if I don't see your analysis as correct. Assuming all the other shows get renewals after Picard ends, and we got a Section 31 series; we would have one 32nd Century show, through 24th/25th Century shows, and two 23rd Century air shows.
Looks pretty symmetric to me.
(And after seeing Michelle Yeoh's latest film: Everything Everywhere All At Once, I hope we're lucky enough to get a Star Trek series with her as the Headliner.)
That's pretty much dead.
Picard is now technically a 25th century show (except the 21st century material in the current time travel story arc).
Close enough.
Lower Decks: started in 2381, unclear how much time has passed
Prodigy: started in 2383, last episode was set in early 2384
Picard: started in 2399, season 2 opened in 2401
Section 31 has never been handled well outside of DS9. I have zero faith in the writers of Picard or Disco being able to do a Section 31 series any justice at all. Even if there were competent writers involved, I still would not want a series with Emperor Georgiou as the lead or frankly, even as a secondary character. Hopefully her final appearance in Discovery season 3 is the last we'll see of that character.
There doesn’t seem to be any interest in a third season. The show seems to have told all the stories it wants to tell, and Trek has all the behind the scene people they want from it.
I some some die-hards hated it, but I loved Disco's version of S31, as a legitimate branch of Starfleet with their own fleet of black USS Vengeance-style deathships. And I want to see what became of Ash Tyler as S31 chief.
They could have introduced a new intelligence agency or whatever Disco's version of S31 was supposed to be, rather than hijack the group from DS9. S31 as we know it from DS9 is a secretive agency that few people in Starfleet even know about. Perhaps the idea was that after the events of Disco season 2, S31 would no longer be an established/legitimate organisation but would instead fade into the shadows and eventually re-emerge during the events of DS9. I could live with that. But that obviously contradicts the proposed S31 series which would just continue to promote S31 as a well known arm of Starfleet without the secrecy and intrigue they were better known for in DS9.
Doesn't contradict anything. We don't know how the series is going to go at all. It could be extremely clandestine missions, moving, as you say, from a legitimate arm to a shadow operation, after the damage done in Season 2. These two things are not contradictory.
I hope it doesn't happpen. DIS has ruined S31 already enough. S31 went from a super-secret organization to a household brand. Everyone knew about it in the 23rd century, they operated a large starbase and gazillions of starships, had operatives on Starfleet vessels wearing shiny black badges, and had technology that would give 25th century Starfleet a run for its money.
Personally, the more I hear about what the series is about, the more I think they should just drop the name. Drop the whole organisation. I don't want to watch a series about the bad guys saving the day by breaking Federation rules, but I'd totally watch a Star Trek: Impossible series about a bunch of misfits helping people with their clever plans and disguises.
And their overreach nearly destroyed the organization. It's call retreat and regroup. Ruined? Hardly.
What's in a name?
Everyone knows about Area 51 too, doesn't stop them from doing what they do. You could have a A51 operative living next door and never know.
I won't be disappointed if the Section 31 project gets mothballed indefinitely. The concept doesn't interest me in the least, especially since the depictions of S31 veer wildly between "the folks willing to get their hands dirty for the good of the Federation" and the Federation's version of the Tal Shiar/Obsidian Order. For me, it gets boring fast.
Like LD and PROD, if it does get made I'll most likely skip it.
Like LD and PROD, if it does get made I'll most likely skip it.
