Missed Opportunities That Need Rectified...

[Orphalesion]

or in the post-TUC era with a new ship and crew.

Honestly I really wish they'd do that. It seems a very interesting era and, considering what TUC was about, it would allow a allegoric reflection on the 1989-2001 era in Western History. There's a lot that could be done with it.

And honestly, the maroon coloured uniforms from that time don't look bad.

 

[1001001]

I still wish that Saavik had been the traitor in STAR VI, since that would have been so much more dramatic and surprising, but there's nothing to be done about that now.

Especially since she got pregnant with Spock's baby on the Genesis Planet, and that's why she stayed behind in TSFS.

 

[Bornin1980something]

I still wish that Saavik had been the traitor in STAR VI, since that would have been so much more dramatic and surprising, but there's nothing to be done about that now.

You want Saavik to go Fury?

 

[Greg Cox]

Especially since she got pregnant with Spock's baby on the Genesis Planet, and that's why she stayed behind in TSFS.

Given that it was the last TOS movie anyway, and we were probably never going to see Saavik on screen again, why not let her go out with a bang instead of a whimper? Making her the traitor would have given her arc a more dramatic conclusion, instead of her just being quietly written out of the series at the beginning of the whale movie. And her betrayal would have much more of a punch to the gut than having the traitor turn out to be a thinly-disguised surrogate Saavik we'd never met before.

(With all due respect to Kim Cattrall.)

 

[1001001]

Given that it was the last TOS movie anyway, and we were probably never going to see Saavik on screen again, why not let her go out with a bang instead of a whimper? Making her the traitor would have been giving her arc a more dramatic conclusion, instead of just being quietly written out of the series at the beginning of the whale movie. And her betrayal would have much more of a punch to the gut than having the traitor turn out to be a thinly-disguised surrogate Saavik we'd never met before. (With all due respect to Kim Cattrall.)

No I totally agree with you.

I'm just saying the betrayal would have been even worse from the mother of his Genesis baby.

Mostly, me just being a smartass.

 

[1001001]

BTW: At a convention in San Francisco, Robin Curtis told us she slept with the guy who played the last Spock on the planet before Nimoy.

 

[Vger23]

BTW: At a convention in San Francisco, Robin Curtis told us she slept with the guy who played the last Spock on the planet before Nimoy.

 

[Oddish]

It could be revealed that Ben eventually did return without actually showing the event. After a stint in non-linear time that might have been hours or eons, he left to see to his work in the linear world. He was there to welcome his and Kasidy's child. He soon after left Starfleet and built a house on Bajor, like he wanted to. With his work done, the Prophets left him to pursue the quiet life of a family man.

 

[1001001]

It was part of a true or false trivia game she played along with the guy who played The Traveler on TNG.

The question was "Robin slept with the actor who played Spock". Which of course everyone thought was false. But it was a trick question.

She also admitted to getting stoned with Rene Auberjonois.

 

[Vger23]

It was part of a true or false trivia game she played along with the guy who played The Traveler on TNG.

The question was "Robin slept with the actor who played Spock". Which of course everyone thought was false. But it was a trick question.

She also admitted to getting stoned with Rene Auberjonois.

Oh, I was not disbelieving you.......I was just thinking about how I missed the boat on being a bit-part actor and all the apparent benefits of such a profession.

 

[Farscape One]

It's simple. Nothing of note happened between ca 2290-2364. All the exciting stuff happened either before or after that era. Probably in later times that era will be known to Federation historians as 'the boring century'

Let's see... that era had a war with the Cardassians, a war with the Tzenkethi, and a war with the Talarians. Off the top of my head. Probably other things happened, too.

And the rest of the 24th century had another Klingon war, the Dominion War, and at least 2 Borg invasions. And that's just in 10 years.

Boring century indeed...

 

[at Quark's]

Let's see... that era had a war with the Cardassians, a war with the Tzenkethi, and a war with the Talarians. Off the top of my head. Probably other things happened, too.

Yes, but those must have been boring too. Otherwise we would have seen them, wouldn't we?

Facetiousness aside (and my reaction you replied to was also intended as such, not as a completely serious reaction), I do get the impression that all these were relatively small skirmishes / border conflicts, not the huge, Federation threatening events we get to see in TNG and later.

And the rest of the 24th century had another Klingon war, the Dominion War, and at least 2 Borg invasions. And that's just in 10 years.

Boring century indeed...

Yes, but those are all after 2364. My use of the 'century' term wasn't intended to be taken literally. 'The long 19th century' is a fairly common reference to the 1789-1914 era, and in the same vein 'the short 20th century' often refers to 1914-1989. At least, when talking about European history.

 

[Vger23]

Perhaps an "unpopular opinion"....I don't feel the need for any more "war stories" in Star Trek.

I love cat-and-mouse games between two ships...I like some action / adventure on an alien planet. I like a good brawl with the Klingons...

But doing an arc or a movie about "war" is just so far from what I want to see in Trek these days. It was done really well in DS9. I'm all good now.

 

[F. King Daniel]

"The Chase"

Check out William Shatner/the Reeves-Stevens Preserver trilogy for a big sweeping epic about the TOS duplicate Earths for how that story should have been told.

"Relics"

The Dyson Sphere. You could set an entire series there and it was a B-plot.

The "real" Kobayashi Maru

Enterprise would have been the ideal series. Imagine the series ended with them getting the distress call from Wrath of Khan, warping off and roll credits. Fans would have debated the fate of NX-01 for decades.

The Ringworld

In Disco S4, they fly right past a ringworld and don't investigate. Same as above, thousands of times the inhabitable area of a planet and... they flew right past. OMG

 

[Qonundrum]

"Conspiracy" had the clever little crustaceans that were the original involvement of the Borg, before they shifted from giant insects to cybernetic terrors. The result is that nice open-ending never got resolved and the big mosquito-things never buzzed in.

 

[Hofner]

One missed opportunity in TOS is the Earth Romulan War and why Lt. Stiles is still so angry after 100 years. It would be like Americans in 1912 still bitterly hating the British over the War of 1812.

So an episode about the Earth Romulan War would've been nice, it could've gone like this:

Uhura: Captain, why is Lt. Stiles such an angry man?

Kirk: Well, its like this lieutenant--- "fade to flashback.


An FTL Earth ship comes across a huge armada of what is later known as Romulan warships which are not FTL capable. It hails the nearest one and in reply, the Romulan ship simply fires an atomic weapon. The FTL capable Earth ship easily dodges the bomb moving at sublight speed and determines the huge Romulan fleet will reach Earth in 57 years.

After 24 years, having built a fleet of 80 FTL starships and having gotten tired of waiting, the Earth fleet goes out to battle the huge Romulan fleet

Well, saying it was like shooting fish in a barrel vastly understates how easy it was for the FTL Earth ships to destroy the sublight Romulans ships.

The Romulans didn't have a chance, they couldn't even SEE the damned Earth ships.

In fact, the crews of the Earth ships got so bored, they came up with a game of seeing how many Romulans ships a single Earth ship could destroy in a single pass at maximum warp speed.

So it came down to the record was 59 Romulan ships destroyed in a single pass and there were only 60 Romulan ships left.

So one Earth ship captain went for a record but having killed 59 Rom ships, this captain manages to run smack into the very last Rom ship, destroying both it and his own ship.

It came so close to being the perfect war for Earth with 100 percent Romulan casualties and 0 percent Earth casualties but thanks to this idiotic captain at the very last second, it didn't happen.

Captain Dunsel Stiles would go down in history as the worst, most useless starship captain ever by far.

Uhura: Oooh woow, no wonder Lt. Stiles is such an angry man.

Kirk: Yep.


Robert

 

[1001001]

One missed opportunity in TOS is the Earth Romulan War and why Lt. Stiles is still so angry after 100 years. It would be like Americans in 1912 still bitterly hating the British over the War of 1812.

Are you kidding?

I still hate the British because of the Revolution!

 

[fireproof78]

One missed opportunity in TOS is the Earth Romulan War and why Lt. Stiles is still so angry after 100 years. It would be like Americans in 1912 still bitterly hating the British over the War of 1812.

Growing up with a veteran who tells stories of no quarter given, whole ships dying. Sure, why not? It's not rational because it is from a skewed historical perspective..

Are you kidding?

I still hate the British because of the Revolution!

I hate them for the French and Indian War! (My ancestors are from Quebec).

 

[1001001]

I hate them for the French and Indian War! (My ancestors are from Quebec).

But we all agree, we hate the British.

 

[The Wormhole]

One missed opportunity in TOS is the Earth Romulan War and why Lt. Stiles is still so angry after 100 years. It would be like Americans in 1912 still bitterly hating the British over the War of 1812.

Well, I know I still get triggered whenever I hear about WWI.