TUVIX PART II !!!!!!!
Or Tuvix the Prequel.
non-profound DS9 questions
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Or Tuvix the Prequel.
That's the scenario I was envisioning, where Odo gets split in 2 while trying to ooze onto a ship that shuts its hatch and warps away. I can't help envisioning mini-Odos, like Baby Groot, but still in their full Bajoran security uniforms and just having higher-pitched voices!
Which begs the additional question, how many samples of himself could Odo hand over before he would cease to be Odo?
But what if the Defiant had gone back in time again, as they were intending to?
Thank you, thank you, thank you! If you have any advice as a veteran Commodore, I would welcome it gladly!
Um... How about "Just because you outrank them now, don't go telling captains how to run their ships. Remember you are just a passenger as far as the running of their ship goes. It never ends well."
No, I said that if they procreate this is possibly how they do it. Not that every time they are temporarily parting with a small sample of themselves, they are procreating.
They must do it in some way, after all. Odo had a beginning as well - that must have come from somewhere.
As for how much of their fluid they can miss, I would presume this would be analogous to us giving blood. We won't mind a little, but we can't miss too much of it. Perhaps though, changelings can replenish themselves over time, much like we can donate liters of blood, just not all at once.
There's always going to end up just being one Odo. If the Defiant goes back in time without him, Old-Odo simply vanishes, like the town did. If Odo goes back with the Defiant well then there's just Old-Odo in the present. It's not like "Yesterday's Enterprise" with double Tasha. It's the same rules as "Time's Orphan" and
"E² " (maybe). Now, if they went and did a "Yesterday's Enterprise", then yes you can have Super-Odo. They could do a Stargate SG-1 "Mobius" and just keep sending Odo back with the puddle jumper and end up with a planet sized changeling.
Still, it's weird that Our Odo now has 200 years' worth of memories that never happened in the first place.
He may not be Starfleet, but he works with them enough to be subject to Janeway's "weird is part of the job" adage.
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About #5, sort of....recently rewatched WYLB and this stuck in my mind..... When Odo links with the female Founder for10 seconds and cures her, she immediately orders a cease fire, and signs the peace treaty shortly after. So he not only healed her but instantly transformed her hatred of solids to acceptance and cooperation. Such a sudden sweeping reversal – is it believable? Odo had linked with her extensively before, even slept with her and it did not change her.
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I think she just trusted Odo was going to cure the Founders and saving her species meant more than some scorched earth endgame.
That is my understanding too. They made a deal.
It seems to me she changed so radically because they did not have a deal, at least outwardly –
Founder: And if you cure me, what will you ask in return?
Odo: All I ask is that you link with me.
His offer without strings convinced her.
It's still a very sudden turnaround, but then she's not human.
Founder: And if you cure me, what will you ask in return?
Odo: All I ask is that you link with me.
His offer without strings convinced her.
It's still a very sudden turnaround, but then she's not human.
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He cured her for free. She still had to surrender to get him to return to the Great Link and cure the rest of the species.
That makes sense. It's unclear though, whether during their link Odo actually did demand that she surrender, or whether she volunteered to do so, having suddenly learned to trust the solids.
I think it would have been very difficult for Odo to do it with the war still ongoing. It would probably doom the solids, and he cares too much about them to do that.
I have a question:
Sickbay has only one bed. Two at most when Quark and Odo were recovering. The station has around 2000 people on it.
Did we ever see a proper hospital ward on the station? The Defiant had more beds!
Sickbay has only one bed. Two at most when Quark and Odo were recovering. The station has around 2000 people on it.
Did we ever see a proper hospital ward on the station? The Defiant had more beds!
Weren't Quark and Odo on the Defiant?
Kira said she thought the Founder would insist on returning to the Great Link to cure her people….so that was a distinct possibility. My guess is, since Odo wanted to return to the Link himself, he requested that the Founder turn herself in and stand trial. Going back to his people meant more to him than staying with Kira, and made a fitting end to his story arc.
A bit off topic....sorry about that.
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Side by side, at the end of Ascent? Yes.
In Babel when they needed more bed space they converted vacant quarters.
Imagine 1 big mega-changeling hand (TOS-style) reaching up from their homeworld to swat the Cardassian-Romulan fleet right back to where it came from. That's teamwork, Founders!
It's probably like the question about the transporter room. If the Cardassians didn't expect to give their slave laborers medical treatment, they wouldn't have given sickbay much room. But you'd think Starfleet would've found a way to expand it, especially with a war going on 'n all.
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