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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x03 - "Assimilation"

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Why was Rios beamed down to a location in midair?

Seven and Raffi landed on the ground. Why not Rios? It makes no sense. :confused:
They had earlier made a point of telling us that thanks to the damage caused by the time travel and the power drain caused by the Borg Queen recharging herself, the transporter was barely functional at all. Seven described it as sub-computational. "For shit," was the term Rios used. Seven and Raffi got lucky. Rios was unlucky. simple as that.
 
The "Take a picture" scene gave me Data/Geordi vibes.

You can gauge Seven's emotional state by how often the machine comes out.


ETA: I can relate to being a machine. When I was in college, I was up until three in the morning working on a COBOL program. I went to McDonald's for a late dinner.

I was so engrossed in the program, my order at the drive-thru came out sounding like a COBOL subroutine! :lol:
 
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I am still catching up on Picard. This is the first episode not written by showrunners Matalas & Goldsman and not as good. With the first 2 episodes I was on the edge of my seat the whole time but not with this one. With the Rios,Raffi and seven in LA scenes they were going for "The Voyage Home" fish out of water vibe and not succeeding. The Borg queen scenes were better,
 
I agree with some of that. However, they should not have called what happened with the Queen and Jurati assimilation then. It was more like a Vulcan mind meld. Think back to Picard mercy killing Ensign Lynch, who was begging him for help, in First Contact because "There was no way to help him." That's Borg assimilation. It's brutal, vicious, and very unpleasant. This euphoria they talked about this week. I don't buy it.

I think you're combining two different ensigns. Picard mercy killed an unnamed crewman who was begging for help, but shot an already assimilated Lynch in the holodeck.

It was a sanctuary district. There was a sign in the background

Maybe it was a sign for the nearby district. Maybe they were waiting to be processed.

Saw this on Facebook and it made me laugh:

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I see nothing.

That would put Khan into conflict with the Vulcans.

We've seen in Enterprise Vulcans were hands off with humans and others, and the prime directive came largely from them. I could see them not getting involved in a war on Earth back then.

I get that, but I'd rather star trek stay relatively consistent instead of the timey wimey morass that Dr. Who became, reinvented on the whim of a show runner every few years. I don't expect it to work perfectly. And as far as pushing forward, it is all the way into the 32nd century now.

A) I say this as some one who loves Doctor Who: a sliding timescale for some events originally in the late 20th to early 21st centuries in no way gets Star Trek any where near Doctor Who levels of timey wimey.

B) I think they meant push these specific events forward in the Star Trek history; they weren't talking about the settings of the shows.

Sorry, I know this is a little bit off the topic of the thread, but it did come up here. I was just curious, for those of you who prefer to interpret Star Trek as being specifically in our future, what makes that an important element for you?

Just from my personal perspective, I watch and read a fair bit of fiction where the characters' history is not "our" history, but that doesn't prevent me from emotionally engaging with the characters or their stories. So it isn't a concern for me at all that the Star Trek characters' world did not experience the same history that our real world did, and I am still able to be heavily invested in their stories. But I am interested in hearing any thoughts about the opposite viewpoint. :)

It certainly doesn't prevent me from enjoying those things either, but with Star Trek, given the choice I do prefer it be set in "our future". As silly a reason as this may be, it might be becoming more important to me the less likely that future looks (climate change, Trump, Ukraine, rise of nationalism and white power groups, science denial, etc.).
 
I think you're combining two different ensigns. Picard mercy killed an unnamed crewman who was begging for help, but shot an already assimilated Lynch in the holodeck.
You are correct. My mistake. He deserves a name I think. Ensign Expendable? ;)
 
Sorry, I know this is a little bit off the topic of the thread, but it did come up here. I was just curious, for those of you who prefer to interpret Star Trek as being specifically in our future, what makes that an important element for you?

It's not the most important element for me, but the idea that we can build the world of Star Trek out of what we have today, that it's not the product of a world that was already better than real-life fifty years ago, is something that feels inspiring to me. I would in general prefer that the writers maintain the conceit.

FFS, the contrivance I am complaining about is that the transporter conveniently injured the one of the three that would best fit into the 21st century anti-immigrant story. Not complaining about taking on that story at all. (And as I said in another post clarifying that, if the ship had put down in the Antebellum South, then the writers would have injured Raffi with the transporter instead. Contrived.)

I don't have a problem with it. One of the rules of good storytelling is that it's okay to use coincidences to get your characters into trouble, not out of trouble.

UESPA was around for at least 200 years. It existed in 2067 to launch Friendship One and was still around in 2267 during "Tomorrow Is Yesterday(TOS)." We have no onscreen canonical information for it after that episode.

For whatever it's worth, Christopher L. Bennett's Rise of the Federation novels establish that the early Federation Starfleet was formed by combining the existing space services of the first five Federation Member States, with each service continuing as a branch of the Federation Starfleet with jurisdiction over particular mission types:
  • United Earth Space Probe Agency: Exploration
  • Vulcan Space Council: Resarch & Development/Administration
  • Andorian Guard: Defense
  • Tellar Space Administration: Operational support and supply
  • Alpha Centauri Space Research Council: Research/exploration
Bennett's idea is also that the different ship patches we saw in TOS were accounted for by these different branches.

From Bennett's annotations for the first Rise of the Federations novel, A Choice of Futures:

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This is apocryphal, but if we accept it, it would account for the references to UESPA at least through TOS. It would also account for why so many 23rd Century Starfleet crews, like the USS Kelvin, the USS Shenzhou and USS Discovery, also wore TOS arrowhead patches: They were all part of the UESPA branch.

How canon?

If everything on a background screen is canon, DS9 has some very interesting tenants...

To say nothing of the giant hamster on a wheel apparently powering the Enterprise-D's warp engines!

7 and Raffi should NOT have been able to enter and leave that casually then. Do sanctuary district regulations change from city to city?

I didn't get the impression they were supposed to be in a Sanctuary District per se. But if they were, there might be smaller Sanctuary Districts that are less secure. Maybe that was part of how the U.S. government pretended the districts weren't a system of de facto urban concentration camps: "Look, these aren't concentration camps! You can clearly enter and exit this camp at will! Those people in that Sanctuary District over there never leave because they don't want to!"
 
Then again, I'm sure Seven and Raffi are easily able to hack whatever defense/security measures these Sanctuary Districts have.
 
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Based on the Sanctuary District we saw in "Past Tense, Parts I and II(DS9)" you basically have some uniformed armed guards and a gate and not much else. I'm sure there are CCTV cameras to monitor for break-ins, unauthorized departures and violence but the San Francisco District labeled "A" didn't strike me as something that Starfleet officers with advanced equipment couldn't overcome.
 
My money is on the doctor's kid being the Watcher. Why else would he be trying to send Morse code on a commbadge?

And the Magistrate had it coming!

Loved what Agnes did.

Not quite as extreme a cliffhanger as the one in "Penance." Which is good, because it's end-of-volume on the DVD set.

The "Take a picture" scene gave me Data/Geordi vibes.

"Hello, computer! . . . a keyboard: how quaint."

And better for your McDonalds order to come out sounding like a COBOL program than an RPG program.
 
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